Praeothmin wrote:And, GStone, consequences was not being aggressive in his posts, IMO, but yours do come off as such.
Give me a fucking break... despite the fact that they whine and bitch and moan... why should JMS give a fuck about signing up...
I think it would be more in line with this site's way of thinking if you could try to be more civil.
Just asking... :)
*Edit: I meant "not being aggressive"... sorry*
That wasn't being agressive. It was said in the face palm, dumbfounded and eye rolling nature of my reaction to his 'pot calling the kettle black' statement. As if SDN members were the paragon of virtue and all that other nobel stuff.
When I'm agressive online, I start swaring like I'm yosemite sam. :-P
consequences wrote:GStone wrote:consequences wrote:See possibility four.
So, you suggest that he should become a masochist, if he isn't already one.
What, seeing expletives on a computer screen causes physical pain? Does this make me a masochist for reading your posts as of now?
Masochism can involve, and often does, emotional pain. And 'cursing someone out', involves more than just expletives. Once you understand the breath of masochism, we can return to this point.
I'm suggesting that if he considers the moral high ground of being perceived to be more polite and reasonable to be important, he can go out there and stick to his guns. Undoubtedly seeing the big meanie warsie thugs get verbally abusive will earn him points among those who actually care about such distinctions.
To be fair, a thug actually has the intention and capability to an extent of harming someone else. Actual thugs that show up on SDN are fed to the vultures. There was one that had posted an email he had sent to Darkstar, something about threatenig him and the higher ups at SDN pounced on him because of the legal issues. Those that you are applying the word thug to are nothing more than the little noise makers from china that you use at new years.
And if he really does have a position that he feels is morally superior, it isn't necessary to post at SDN. They already follow his writings from his site and this board. There's no need to retype every single thing twice.
Quite frankly, the SD.net population as a whole doesn't care about you, your board, or STvs.SW in general at this point. Hence the need to actually go over there if you don't want to be cherry-picked, and then have the debate on that point ignored forever more after that moment.
1) Oh, please. So much of what I've written over the years has been brought to SDN from other boards and has been complained about that I should get an honorary title of 'SDN Troll'. And, if they really didn't give a damn about us, the 'More Trektardisms' thread wouldn't still be growing where they talk about us most of the time.
66 pages with the last post this past Friday. You're right, they aren't obsesssed with us. They often forget we exist.
2) Oka, so you admit SDN cherry picks what others say. This was always known, but I do like it when an SDN member admits to it.
And I'm sorry, but do you really want to revisit the egregious examples of tactical thoughtlessness that you were espousing in that thread in a manner that would shame a cherry butter-bar?
I had a response to Gniops all planned out, including such tibits of research as the idea of rigor happening, as well as the ideas that my initial idea got inflatted into by many at SDN, but JMS locked the thread. Blame Gniops' post for being the final straw. I was even gonna be polite about it, too, but Gniops had to screw it up.
We can start with the Jem'Hadar reading the defenders' minds, so as to be prepared to charge forward and form a flawless phalynx formed of the bodies of their own first wave, slinging their rifles and reaching them instantly so as not to be wiped out in turn if you'd like
And this is a perfectly good example of what I am talking about above. You, just like the others mentioning what I wrote at SDN, can't even keep straight what I said. No, you have to add in crap and several didn't even take the time to read the thread to see that that part was added in. It was believed I said that. If any of us posted over there, we'd spend 90% of our time showing what is believed to be what we said is not really what we said because many over there are too lazy to look at the thread themselves.
Ah, yes, the inevitable groupthink accusation. Let's see how many purposeless me-too posts it gets this time.
In the similar train of thought above, once you understand what 'groupthink' means, you will see that it isn't an accusation, it's fact. When you do, we can return to this point, too. But, if you want to see a reduction of 'groupthink' declarations, stop posting groupthink sentences and lines of thinking.
And I don't see any arguments that achieve adequacy, much less flawlessness, what's your point?
I said that it wouldn't matter. It was in black and white. English is actually a lot easier than people give it credit.
So if he actually wants to get his views out, un-editted, un-altered, and un-cherry-picked he has to leave the confines of this board. Since he already receives the same type of abuse at other forums where he makes his case, he might as well go straight to the source. If nothing else, he'll pick up points for perceived courage, and probably some small amount of support from the general underdog image that will be projected after the inevitable dogpile.
So, if this were to be applied evenly, the same would be said of Wong. I don't see you saying this to him.
n any case, I highly recommend coping. You've had more than five years since ICS to convince the internet of the shining undeniable truth of your position. How's that worked out for you again?
It's been working out fine. In the movie only canon, it doesn't matter; in the movie+EU canon, its numbers and "facts" are still subservient to the movies' depictions. Either way, it's crap. The facts speak for themselves. So, there really is nothing we ever needed to do. If one chooses to believe in them, that's on them. It isn't on us. We aren't required to do anything. So, you see. It's been fine because we never needed to prove anything to anybody.
