Praeothmin wrote:KirkSkywalker wrote:Thus one arguing something from the EU as valid canon, must prove that it doesn't contradict G-canon; and the only way to do that, is to stick to what's already in the G-canon anyway.
That's why it's a separate universe, logically as well as officially.
I disagree, as the EU adds a lot of information on the SW universe, and is also called SW, so it fits with the SW universe.
By that token, fanfic is canon too.
And if the debater can show it doesn't contradict higher canon, then the information is valid.
But the only way to do that "proving a negative," that it doesn't contradict anything in the G-canon, is to cite G-canon
precdent; so it's a circular argument, as this renders the EU-canon superfluous.
For example, Boba's death.
Nothing in G-Canon clearly states he is dead.
Lucas says he's dead; and your differing with this, says that you think you know more than Lucas about what's G-canon.
But by definition, you can't know more than him about what's G-canon, since G-caon is whatver he
says is G-canon.
Ergo, you're wrong-- and since it's G-canon that Fett's dead, then his living on in the EU is
proof that it's a different universe (if you need more than the word of Lucas on that point.
And as Mike said, the creator of the vs thread decides what is acceptable or not, so if the creator says "all EU", then the entire EU is accepted...
Mike DiCenso wrote:Yes, maybe that's really the way it is to George Lucas, but that's not the way it is to a lot of the LFL employees as well as the to many of the fans in the Versus debate. That's why in the OP of your topic thread you should state that the EU (ICS) is not allowed as evidence. But many other people will allow the EU (in particular the ICS) in their thread's OP, thus we have a whole thread in the Trek/Wars section dedicated to how the ICS is contradicted by the EU as well as the TCW CGI series, and the movies.
-Mike
It's pretty chaotic if every thread has its own canon-policy; that pretty much obviates all discussion, since then the OP can dictate facts as well.
A threa is not a separate universe, and an original poster is not its God.
Lucas is the creator and licensor of SW, and therefore he's the final word on what's canon; he didn't sign off on the rights to SW to LFL, just the EU.
So LFL can do whatever it wants, and it stays a separate universe. If some fans want to pretend the EU is the same universe as G-cnanon, that' s cool-- they can believe in the Easter Bunny too.