Darth Ruinus[/url] in the [url=http://www.stardestroyer.net]SDN[/url] thread [url=http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=113354&start=1000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=]More Trektardism wrote:Not to demean the guys who had those long ass missions in those old planes in WWII, but, the pilots in WWII had to contend with:
"you know, this is another bombing raid, theyll be others and probably more important ones too, anti air fire and fighters planes up ahead"
whereas the Rebels were thinking
"Shit, this is it! This is the mission of the war. We are outnumbered by ONE fucking sector group, we're about to go right into the fucking doorstep of the biggest nastiest spacestation in the history of our galaxy, its defenses alone could fight off entire fleets, were risking all this on a group of small commandoes who are also outnumbered, they might not make it either. There is no second chance on this one.
Oh, and Im in a little snubfighter. Great"
JMSpock thinks that 6 to 12 hours with that nice little thought isnt going to affect anyone.
Zablorg[/url] in the [url=http://www.stardestroyer.net]SDN[/url] thread [url=http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=113354&start=1000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=]More Trektardism wrote:Actually, he says that they wern't flying for 12 hours at all, but rather, there were droids flying the ships instead.
I didn't see any, although I haven't seen the movie recent enough to remember such details. Were there any droids flying the ships?
I wonder if they and the gays who are thinking the same, have seen the movie at all.Darth Ruinus[/url] in the [url=http://www.stardestroyer.net]SDN[/url] thread [url=http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=113354&start=1000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=]More Trektardism wrote:Even worse, the guys were awake to think about what they were about to get themselves into.
Besides, still the same thing, you are still cramped in that little space for a long ass time.
- The rebels were convinced, that "the weapon systems on this Death Star [were] not yet operational",
- that "it is [only] protected by an energy shield, which is generated from the nearby forest Moon of Endor" and
- at their arrival, they were astonished that there were "enemy ships in sector 47", what has caused Ackbars surprised diagnosis that "it's a trap".
The pilots in their fighters could have let the autopilot steer the fighters while in hyperdrive and could have relaxed or sleeped while reducing the artificial gravity.
Even planes from today have an autopilot and don't need any droids to fly it. Shall we assume, that Star Wars fighters have no autopilot?
And, to make the whole case even more complicated, who says, that time in hyperspace is the same as in real space? In real space, 12 hours or even more could have passed, but in hyperspace it were maybe only a few minutes. Especially those, who think that hyperspace is nothing more than real space, viewed from above lightspeed, should consider time dilations.
Is there any indication, that the departure of the rebel fleet from Sullust has happened after the rebel task force was captured?Darth Wrong[/url] in the [url=http://www.stardestroyer.net]SDN[/url] thread [url=http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=113354&start=1000&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=]More Trektardism wrote:Who the fuck cares whether the pilots could withstand that kind of long-term cramped condition without suffering an edema or something? This numb-nuts theory requires that it took 12 fucking hours for Han Solo and Leia to be escorted out of the building.
Usually in movies, because it is difficult to simultaneously show different events which have happened at the same time but in different locations on one screen, these events are shown one after another. Sometimes events are even shown totally out of their chronology because it is easier to comprehend for the audience.
If there are no indications, that different events, which have happened in different locations, have really happened one after another, one can not assume, that, because they were shown one after another, that they have indeed happened one after another. They could have happened simultaneously or the later shown event could even have happened before the first shown event.
The rebels could have entered the enemy complex and sneaked to the shield control room. That's not something, one can do overhasty, if one don't want to be detected. That's why it would need its time for them to reach their destination. But the rebel fleet could have departured from Sullust already shortly after the task force has entered the bunker and could have been underway, while the task force has tried to reach the shield control room. These events could have been merely showed in another order.
- Furthermore, it is interessting, that, when someone, who speaks in favor for Star Trek, makes a mistake, someone like Darth Wrong is overready to show that and to proclaim how stupid one is. But to these stupid, the movie ignoring mistakes, he has said nothing.
I think, that's one reason, why many people have problems with respecting him. If he would be honest, he would have pointed out that mistake as he would have pointed it out, if it would have been from a pro Star Trek debater. But it seems, as long as it is speaking in favor for Star Wars, he doesn't care, if it is wrong. But if that is his attitude, how can one trust him to say the truth at all.
I know, he would say, that he doesn't care, if I respect him or not. But if he would have pointed out that mistake in the same way he points out the mistakes from pro Star Trek debater, he would have gained some respect from me because he would have shown, that he can be honest for a change.
- Furthermore, it is interessting, that, when someone, who speaks in favor for Star Trek, makes a mistake, someone like Darth Wrong is overready to show that and to proclaim how stupid one is. But to these stupid, the movie ignoring mistakes, he has said nothing.