Mith wrote:Lucky wrote: Mr. Oragahn wrote: I don't know if the thread at SBC is intended as mockery but it could sure manage to give a hint to debaters about the stupidity of the typical wank(hamm)er's literalism, when people realize that what they'd take as a joke... actually is some people's pretty much dead serious reality.
Generally those threads are frowned upon when they hurt some vocal fans' sensibilities.
On the topic itself, the fact that such speeds are obtained with fusion engines in short time is a huge proof of applied mass lightening.
Guardian2nd seems to believe in nonsensically large yeilds for War Hammer 40K.
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He's a 40k fanboy, what can you expect? And since he's rabidly defended by SuperS1, they're never going to get called on it.
Oh yeah? SS4. I thought he was supposed to act neutral.
No moderator seems to have the capacity to withstand the pressure of internal fandom and avoid conforming to the hidden house rules then.
Huh, randomly checking page 11 and stubming upon
White Rabbit's post.
SUPER LATE EDIT (adding the quotation):
Dawn of War Tempest wrote:
The sleek shape of the twin-finned Vampire Raider was bathed in red flames as it scythed its way through the upper atmosphere. Its broad, forward-sweeping wings sliced through the mesosphere and plunged into the gaseous resistance of the stratosphere, submerging the streaking vessel in furious waves of fire.
As the fireball burst through into the troposphere, revealing the slick black of the vessel's armour, a long hatch jettisoned from the underside of its fuselage and a slender missile-emplacement dropped into place. Immediately, the barrel flared and a rocket roared down towards the distant mountains below.
After a few seconds, the hypersonic missiles punched into the snowy peak of one of the largest mountains, instantly vaporising the ice and the glacial permafrost, sending avalanches of snow and abrupt waves of water crashing down the mountainside. The missiles drove their way down into the substance of the mountain, clearing a wide impact crater and blowing clouds of dust and debris into the air. Then, just as the avalanche seemed to stop and the dust started to settle, the warheads detonated in the molten core of the volcano.
The explosion caused the mountain to convulse, shrugging off its surface layer of snow and rocky debris. Then the peak trembled and cracked, as the pressure forced the molten lava out into streams that hissed and steamed through the icy heights, blending with the plumes of sulphurous gases into a towering cumulonimbus. Finally, the pressure was too great to be vented by the little lacerations in the mountainside and the whole peak blew clear of the mountain, blasting immense chunks of rock and spraying magma for kilometres in every direction.
Still descending rapidly towards the desert, the black Vampire Raider rolled in a tight corkscrew, signalling its success to the second Raider that was just emerging from the inferno of the lower atmosphere, its green and white colouring making it appear to shimmer amongst the flames.
The second Raider flicked its wings in acknowledgement as it burst out of the troposphere and dove down in pursuit of the first, spiralling gently as though indifferent to the intractable pull of gravity.
Strapped into the pilot's seat of the black Vampire Raider, Laeresh was confident that the eruption would cover their descent into the desert. He had very little faith in the efficacy of mon-keigh technology; the strike cruiser that he had almost crippled in orbit had merely served to confirm his preconceptions. A huge volcanic eruption would certainly register on the primitive instruments of the humans, but he was sure that the signal would swamp the fleet, delicate signatures of the two Vampires. The mon-keigh would simply assume that it was a natural event, or even that a freak meteor had struck the volcano. He knew that they had been confused by stories of natural disasters on that planet before.
He rolled the Vampire over and tipped its nose towards the desert, accelerating vertically through the sound barrier before pulling up less than a metre from the ground, hammering the sonic boom into the sand and blasting out an impact crater. He angled his bird out into the deep desert, leaving the mountains diminishing behind him. He loved to fly and he nearly always insisted that he should pilot his own craft, despite the fact that his Aspect Warriors would always try to insist that their exarch should remain secure in the transportation hold until touchdown.
In a manoeuvre that would have killed a mon-keigh in one of their primitive flyers, Laeresh hit the gravitic-repellers and brought the craft to a dead halt in less than a second. The extreme g-forces that should have instantly killed all of the eldar onboard were spontaneously nullified by the gravity stabilisers in the Vampire's occupied compartments. Laeresh had used this manoeuvre against the ignorant humans and retarded orks on many occasions, watching them overshoot his position by kilometres as their primitive craft struggled to decelerate slowly enough to keep their pilots alive.
So humans' fighters don't have anything like those fantastic gravitic impellers. Their crafts are so sluggish that they cannot correct course before overshooting by
kilometers, literally, if they fly at similar speeds. Their deceleration capabilities are absolute shit in comparison. Nor can they accelerate any faster since they more or less have to cope with g-forces in a natural way, without the help of inertia dampeners or exotic weejeezes like that.
So how are they supposed to be part of a space warship' ordnance and fight over thousands of km if they can't get decent accelerations to meet their foe under acceptable times?
It also pretty much proves that any super speed can only be allowed by trickery tech that seems independant of the smaller crafts. Therefore, this only leave a launching system inside the large ships that allow crafts to be fired fast enough within a short time frame, and benefit from a hypothetical interna dampening field that surrounds the launching ramp.
Eh.
