Kane Starkiller wrote:Mike DiCenso wrote:Kane and Swede did a kind of similar thing on the old STrek-v-Swars forum. They'd get dogpiled in a debate, then go run off back to SDN for help by starting up threads there that were related to the debate going on at Strek-v-SWars, then come back after a few days to a few weeks with new ammunition in the form of bogus arguements to continue on with.
The reason I would always walk away a few days after each of these forums opened (strek-v-swars, digital breakdown etc.) is beacuse it is run by Trekkies and 99% population are Trekkies. And when I say Trekkie I don't mean a person who likes Star Trek (I'm one of them) or a person who likes Star Trek better than Star Wars. I'm talking about the kind of person who looks at Clone Army (with it's armored soldiers, shielded LAAT's armed with superlasers, blasters and missiles, AT-AT's, AT-TE's, Juggernauts etc.) and then look at the pajamas wearing redshirts with nothing but hand held phasers and declare that they are not only superior but an "unstoppable force" as you put it DiCenso. I'm talking about the kind of person who declares battledroids as a terrible army because they are supposedly stupid but then turns around and claims that a bunch of moronic Klingons running around with a piece of metal would dominate the field.
I don't know if you remember very well, but even near the end of its life, strek-v-swars.net had a population that was close to evenly split between Trek and Wars debaters. A handful of posters on each side dominated most of the discussion.
During the earlier phases of strek-v-swars forums, there were
more pro-Wars debaters than pro-Trek debaters.
Kane Starkiller wrote:These kinds of forums are the only place you can post DiCenso. A forum of 20 Trekkies in which you can fly whatever theory you want. A forum where you can claim that Han Solo as a smuggler is a military expert even though he has repeatedly demonstrated ignorance about the Imperial military and then use his single statement as some kind of evidence for the size of the fleet. Where you can use unfinished parts of second Death Star to produce an estimation of it's density. Such laughable claims would immediately be shot down on any larger forum such as Spacebattles or SD.net which must have stricter policy on burden of proof and rules of evidence beacuse of their sheer size but here you can get away with it.
Actually, Kane, Mike DiCenso can post almost
anywhere. Large forums, small forums, etc - almost none would have a problem with anything Mike has said. Heck, they wouldn't even hand him warnings for being "impolite" as I have.
On SB.com, the moderation staff currently in place suppress pretty much any criticism of the ICS, to the visible frustration of much of the board's population. Nonamer can tell you more about that, or how enforcement of the rules falls more heavily on pro-Trek rather than pro-Wars debaters.
On SD.net, any actual Trek vs Wars
debate is locked or removed from public view within a couple weeks. Moderation staff jump on any poster who offers a coherent pro-Trek view. The active population is pretty much universally on the pro-Wars side of the debate.
On these forums here at SFJN, there are
no such ideological standards or biases. My board here - like 99+% of the internet's discussion boards - is not a board where the rules will be unevenly enforced on Star Trek fans and Star Wars fans.
DS9 which actually does use nuclear fusion managed to hold of a fleet of Klingon ships.
Every so often you say something like this, which makes me sad that you don't post here more often - because that is well worth looking at. I hadn't considered it carefully.
He wouldn't try to evade like mad when I demanded him to explain what kind of chemical reaction in the planet could produce 10^38J beacause he obviously threw that in out of desperation and unwillingness to concede even the smallest point. He wouldn't try to use two-frame explosion artefacts to claim that they represent support for his "theories" and moreover invent explosion artefacts which apparently no one but him can see and then compare that to ST incidents in which we clearly see a few second sequence of an object slowly being "eaten away" like TWOK example.
Kane, the artifact in question can't be at the same time a two-frame object that you claim is a normal part of the explosion and also be invisible to everyone but me. As I mentioned in that thread, I launched my argument based on a solid sequence of no less than eight independent pieces of evidence, of which the clear disappearance of the Rebel cruiser was one.
Kane Starkiller wrote:And he sure as hell wouldn't allow guys like Nonamer to call Dr. Saxton "a lying prick" without so much as a warning but then threaten me when I call Nonamer's "superlaser creating black holes inside Alderaan" as incoherent ramblings.
Kane, this has nothing to do with ideology - nor is it an accurate claim. Nonamer
was warned
in the very same post you were:
Jede Master Spock wrote:Kane Starkiller wrote:incoherent ramblings
And I've mentioned the bit about staying polite before.
This is your final warning before I proceed to taking some variety of action.
Nonamer wrote:Did you have a minor stroke or something?
Nonamer, you may consider yourself to be given official warning as well. I'm deathly serious about maintaining good manners here - it's part of the whole experiment in launching these boards.
(You have more slack left at the moment than Kane. See enforcement policy for details.)
The reason why, of course, Nonamer had rather more slack left is because his warning count was lower than yours. You earned yourself multiple warnings in a short length of time for flying off at the handle at me, Nonamer, and Mike DiCenso. Read through the Rules section and the relatively new enforcement policy to see why that matters.
The simple fact of the matter is that you've been ruder than the other posters.
If you are to post elsewhere on the internet, though, you may wish to learn something: Most boards
don't have general rules about staying polite; most
do have rules against flaming.
Calling Dr. Saxton a "lying prick" is a rude assessment, likely to provoke poor behavior in his fans - but, unless Dr. Saxton happens to be present, usually won't be considered a flame. Replying to a poster by saying they are "rambling incoherently" would be considered such on most boards.
Kane Starkiller wrote:Of course I realize that this post will fly straigth over your head. I couldn't reason with you in the threads we were involved with and I ceartainly don't expect you to concede anything now. But I just wanted to state for the record why I've stopped posting on this forum.
And I would like to state for the record that your reasons are not particularly good ones.