Well, I guess the no-prior-agreement concept is consistent, at least, since your fantasies of a real-life encounter with me have never included my knowledge beforehand. Nor have you been all that concerned with doing the meeting yourself, content to simply give support to those who have tried to carry the disputes offline (i.e. to my workplace, home, et cetera).Cock_Knocker wrote:I can only speak for myself, but these debates aren't as serious in real life as some lead you to believe. In my personal opinion, Mr. Darkstar is a very unstable individual, who I'd never agree to meet in real life.
I do find it quite telling, though, that your only connection to the debate now is me. Let the obsession die, Wayne. You've seen that it doesn't stop me and doesn't slow me down. You've seen that I've won the canon argument, for instance, even despite your best vitriol. Your old ways just don't work. Let it go. You'll be healthier for it.
And yes, some do think the internet is not "real life", as you yourself put it . . . the anonymity of most interactions make some feel free to behave as poorly as they like, thinking it doesn't really matter. Of course, that's ridiculous in reality . . . what one says to others in front of a keyboard is just as real as what one says to others on the phone or in person.
This fundamental misunderstanding of the internet, wherein it's some magic Unimatrix Zero dreamland, just doesn't fly. But, that rationale does explain why SDNers deride those who, like JMS, seek to re-add at least a modicum of class to their discussion boards by not serving Debate Flambé.
Your belief that I am unstable is based in part on the fact that I take online and offline threats from you guys somewhat seriously, and call you to the carpet for your behavior. Certainly you guys having employed personal harassment, threats of torture and murder, and so on is going a bit far for a debate which isn't "as serious in real life as some lead you to believe", don't you think?
And yet you wonder why I reacted so.
Certainly there are several of the dirty-dozen-or-so like you that have sufficient motive . . . I break your favorite toy, and most of you are functionally psychotic, which makes a bad combination. And as a rule, many of you have the means, if you'd put down the ICS book and get some pants on. It's just that most of you don't have the opportunity, because most of the ones who are as obsessed about me as you live too far away to do much about it.
But then, it would only take one of you or your sycophants living close enough or going batty enough to bring the psychosis to my doorstep, forcing me to exercise the delightfully broad self-defense laws of my state.
And yet you wonder why I compartmentalize my internet activities and share nothing on ST-v-SW.Net or elsewhere of my offline activities.
(Which, of course, is why you fellows started your campaign to begin with, since you became aware of someone who did have the opportunity and means, though a different motive. As Kynes put it, any tactic which might lead to success in the debate was valid, so his preference which you shared was terror and intimidation. It even worked for a little while, too.
Once that person was taken care of and I was back to my old habits, though, is when you and your allies took to the personal harassment and additional threats. Same old pattern time and again, against me and, as time passed, many others.
And yet you seem surprised that, given that it's been my life and liberty being considered optional by you people, that I would not only be the expert on the topic of what you people have said and done, but that I'd be more than a little annoyed.)
In any case, I will quite happily grant that, so far as I can recall, I haven't received any direct threats for several months. I'd love to be able to say I pointed out the bad behavior and you people saw the light, but I think it's mostly just that Karen Traviss, Gary Sarli, and others have provided adequate distractions.
I will let you in on a little secret, though. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and any public community like SDN will feature a certain laxity of security, even among the Talifan. That is to say, my compartmentalization of activities, developed due to the bad behavior of you and yours, is not something you guys have been as careful about.
Or, more to the point, terrorism can have a nasty habit of fostering more of it against those who began it, like a sort of more direct karma. I've hinted at that before but you guys didn't seem to get it.
So yes, as I've mentioned before, I have more than a few things saved about the members who I've considered security risks to me, just for my own records. Keeping tabs on you guys while looking for idiot-proofings to my pages is a cheap sort of homeland security. And like Kynes before me, I can google, too. I considered it precautionary, though I seem to recall you trying to pull some anti-chronological spin-doctoring on my prior hints and claim I'd been stalking you guys, thus you were morally okay (since, of course, Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki).
The point I was hinting at, though, is that more than once I've had opportunity to do something naughty to the worst of you. Means was there, and there was at least a bit of motive. In your case, for example . . . and here we return to the karmic thing . . . there was a very simple maneuver I could've made which would've adversely affected your employment. It would've required nothing on my part but an anonymous e-mail with a URL . . . not even as much effort as some of your members have spent trying to call my workplace or home.
I can't take full credit for the idea, of course . . . I got it from one of your compatriots who once spoke of doing the same to me.
Motive was there. After all, the more that distracts you and yours from your obsession with me, the more secure I am.
But at the time, your obsession seemed on the wane (no pun intended), and besides which some of the possible results would've given you a lot more time on your hands. Which, given the obsession, was not preferable.
And, frankly, I mostly just didn't want to feel as dirty and soulless as you do every day. So, I decided against it.
(And no, there's no danger now, nor threat implied here . . . you can make stupid videos all day long for all I care. While I might mention you in a 'rumors about the author' sort of page on ST-v-SW that I've pondered from time to time, that's about the worst you can expect from me in the current climate.)
This returns us to the point of the thread. Be glad I'm not who you try to pretend I am, but understand that psychotic Talifanism could end up creating exactly what you want to imagine in people. The ""miss manners" attitude" you deride is called civility, and with ASVS and SDN we've seen what a lack of it produces. It poisons the well of discourse. It evolves into a groupthink where shameful and sometimes illegal activity is considered okay, since activities that civilized people consider reprehensible become more normal in the groupthink subculture.
And yet it's had definite effects. You reap what you sow. The Talifan behavior has seemingly stripped Saxton of significant further opportunity with Licensing, and could very well have stripped you of opportunities in your own life were it not for my own civility.
Of course, I'm sure you'll simply go batty at this point, run back to SDN and try to spin how evil and wicked I am, and maybe even update the BS on your hate page. After all, you've been part of the groupthink evolution for a decade. You often behave as if you are without worth or value, so the above would follow in that vein.
Or, you could consider the fact that, whether in regards to ST-v-SW.Net or in regards to the more personal contest, the "refreshing" bad manners of ASVS and SDN have only created (or in the latter case, almost-created) the very nemesis you pretended and sought to destroy.
The SDN way just doesn't work. It seems to pay off in the short term because it appears to the subculture that they have vanquished their enemies, but all they really do is annoy people and marginalize themselves.
Think about it.
