Starfleet Jedi

Mr. Oragahn wrote:That said, Breetai, could you please bother with that lacking punctuation? It's getting tiring and quite disrespectful of all those who take the time to make appropriately structured sentences.
Thanks.

Jedi Master Spock wrote:

Sothis wrote:There is a difference between attacking someone's argument and attacking them. You might argue that Mike attacks the man; I would suggest he attacks the argument, and only flames his opponents after they flame him, or if they ignore the warnings on his site about reading the site.

Well, there's one way to try to measure how much time he spends attacking the argument and how much time he spends attacking the person behind the argument. I would suggest that you pay attention to how much time, and posting volume, he spends on talking about people.

Count it up, word by word - open three documents. Copy everything Wong said into the first file, and then start going through it.

Every line that's talking about how his opponent must be stupid for disagreeing with him, every line that's spent talking about how his opponent doesn't have a real degree or an important job (or, conversely, Wong talking about how successful he is IRL, how his degree is real, how he's taking valuable time to respond, et cetera), every insulting aside, such as "you moron," every trolling "Concession accepted!" that's just there to provoke his opponent - put those in the second file.

Everything that's pure impersonal argument, just plain facts and logic, the sort of thing that I would offer in a formal debate, put that in the third file. Then look at the second and third files and compare them. Which is longer? Which is more interesting to read? Which one is more repetitive?

mojo wrote:

Jedi Master Spock wrote:

Sothis wrote:There is a difference between attacking someone's argument and attacking them. You might argue that Mike attacks the man; I would suggest he attacks the argument, and only flames his opponents after they flame him, or if they ignore the warnings on his site about reading the site.

Well, there's one way to try to measure how much time he spends attacking the argument and how much time he spends attacking the person behind the argument. I would suggest that you pay attention to how much time, and posting volume, he spends on talking about people.

Count it up, word by word - open three documents. Copy everything Wong said into the first file, and then start going through it.

Every line that's talking about how his opponent must be stupid for disagreeing with him, every line that's spent talking about how his opponent doesn't have a real degree or an important job (or, conversely, Wong talking about how successful he is IRL, how his degree is real, how he's taking valuable time to respond, et cetera), every insulting aside, such as "you moron," every trolling "Concession accepted!" that's just there to provoke his opponent - put those in the second file.

Everything that's pure impersonal argument, just plain facts and logic, the sort of thing that I would offer in a formal debate, put that in the third file. Then look at the second and third files and compare them. Which is longer? Which is more interesting to read? Which one is more repetitive?

someone needs to do this!

Khas wrote:His grammar still beats Jason's by a long-shot.

And, amusingly enough, Jason has shown up on SDN.

Oh boy...

Picard wrote:Trekkie wanker from ASVS. SWST would like him. Once claimed that E-D will chew up Death Star with phasers - maybe not that stupid when I think about it, but Death Star should be able to produce at least as much power as Big E, with its ~100-1000 times larger reactor - fusion gives 156 times less energy than M/AM reaction for same amount of fuel used; so if E-D has fleet supporting it, dropping shields might be possible. Plus NDF... but I still think that Death Star is just too damn massive for E-D to do it in any reasonable timeframe (less than few months or years, that is. Or maybe centuries - I never did calculations for that). Drilling hole right to reactor is way smarter option, and way more plausible. Unless NDF can multiply firepower by factor of 1 000 000 to 1 trillion, which it can't.

Khas wrote:We don't mean just damage it. We mean "make it look like Swiss cheese". Also, the DS was made of tougher materials than a moon it's size, and had a powerful-as-hell deflector shield.