It never ceases to amaze me when they repeat that lie from 2002. I mean, I know how bad they are so I should be used to it, but it's just such a brazen act of dishonesty and absurdity that it's always a little shocking.
In any case, I deny making the claim because I didn't make the claim . . . the claim was created entirely by SDN poster "Spanky the Dolphin" out of his own imagination, and falsely attributed to me since I'd used the word "it" when describing something. He turned "it" into a metal-in-the-neck claim.
Therefore, I rightly consider it to be their claim. It is certainly not mine.
As I said in 2004: "I was once embroiled in a nine day, multi-dozen-page tour de force thread on SD.Net's board (not counting the other threads I was involved with at that point), as just about every active member tried to attack just about every page I had at the time. In the midst of the conflagration, Warsies were claiming that Vader's spine was artificial just like Worf's. The story is recounted here*. The thread has been edited and modified since the events occurred (at least three pages are missing, and Ossus stupidly added replies well after I was banned, as if it to make it look like I didn't respond to his words), but can be found at
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?t=1183.
That was from 2004 . . . and if you'll note, you don't generally see them giving the link to the actual thread. Even in the modified thread, you still won't be able to find me saying there's metal reinforcements naturally in the neck of Star Wars humans, because I never said it.
What I did oppose were the claims they were making, which were that (1) force lightning is just like x-rays and (2) that any brightness differences among different internal part visible during force lightning events had to (a) be true density differences and (b) be of unnatural origin.
Spanky basically ignored what I'd been saying, and took his own assumption of force lightning showing up like developed x-ray film and ran with it, so that I somehow had to be saying there was metal in the neck.
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http://www.st-v-sw.net/BB/BBcompare.htm ... antagesUFP
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic. ... &start=291
Oh crap, you were saying you can't see the thread. Hmm. Okay, here:
DarkStar wrote:Bob The Great wrote:DarkStar wrote:
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that she was unable to regenerate Worf's back when it was crushed,
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Has this ability been demonstrated in the SW canon?
Well, I don't participate in these type of debates much (they're fun to read though :D), but this is something that I have to respond to.
There is an excellant analysis of Darth Vader's injuries here.
http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html#skeleton
Part of this analysis shows that the upper portion of Vader's spine had been crushed or otherwise damaged, resulting in the complete cybernetic replacement of his first 3 or 4 vertebrae, and probably some artificial nerves as well.
This picture (ROTJ screenshot) shows fairly clearly that Vader's upper vertebrae are not natural.
Here's a pic of what that would look like if he were your average human:
http://www.kleinlyons.com/imagery/x-ray.jpg
Even if we assume that this is an accurate, X-ray-like representation of his bone structure via the use of Force Lightning, it would not preclude the possibility of something simply covering (reinforcing) the relevant bones.
Of course, given that we have nothing to compare it to, it may simply represent the natural order of the dominant humanoids of the SW galaxy.
Spanky quoted that last sentence ten minutes later, then said "What the f*** is that suppost to mean? That SW humans naturally have materials denser than bone in their third and fourth vertibrae?"
Several posts and a mere two hours later, with no response from me (since, as I noted in the thread, I was getting whole pages of replies within the space of 90 minutes) Spanky then expanded upon his claim, making reference to "DorkStar's comment concerning Vader's vertibrae (where he idiotically posits that SW humans naturally have a couple metal vertibrae, including braces) {...}"
After that it went straight to echo-chamber mode, with Stravo quoting Spanky as if it were my statement, and from there it was off to the races as they all commented about what I'd supposedly said, even adding quotes around it as if they were quoting me.
So, it was entirely their own creation. I didn't even pay any attention to it at first, because it was so silly . . . it was a couple-three pages later before I bothered to correct someone for saying that. Unbeknownst to me, then, it would become one of the central Rabid Warsie myths, one of those religious beliefs they have to proclaim to be a part of that subculture.
For people so averse to facts, they need myths . . . but man, it just amazes me how off-the-wall this one is.
And there you have it . . . probably the longest response to that crap ever.
Everyone bookmark this post for easy reference in the future. ;-)