Mike DiCenso wrote:Mr. Oragahn wrote:You miss my point. I say that the beam doesn't make the head explode the moment it touches it, and the moment the head explodes, it's obvious it comes from inside, not from the point of impact.
No, I get it all right, but I think you are wrong. The head probably got burrowed through by the beam, headting the flesh as it went, stripping off the outer layers of skin on the side of the beam impact, and sufficently heating up the skull in 2 seconds to cause it to burst.
... and after burrowing like 10 cm beneath the skull, it magically deposits kaboom particles and the head explodes.
How exactly do you plan to ignore that? It's painfully obvious that the explosion is internal, following an equally obvious NDF dissolving of the flesh.
A burrowing beam has no reason to suddenly make stuff explode like if it obeyed different laws than DET, unless it precisely
did.
Also notice that there's no ejecta despite your claim of burrowing.
As I said, we've seen phasers and disruptors fire against a target with no significant effects until the target would burst. The recent example I brought is the Jem'hadar bugs chasing Odo's Runabout in some ice asteroid field (DS9: Treachery, Faith and the Great River).
The other example is Picard ordering the projector dish of the E-D to be recalibrated in order to emit a powerful a "disruptive nuclear effect" beam: The asteroid didn't explode right when hit but with a delay (TNG: Cost of Living).
Mr. Oragahn wrote:Non sequitur.
The disappearance of the creature is typical of a NDF effect, down to the colour.
By all means, contrary to your claim, it is a NDF effect in action.
It certainly does not look like what happened to the chest of the man when the creature poured light or whatever to dissolve it.
No, the creature is of an usual nature not at all like the smaller ones, and Riker's phaser, which should not have been altered in setting should have cause the creature to burst apart as did Remmick's head, and we saw earlier that Picard's phaser was set to kill in a way that did not cause serious physical injury. Therefore the disintegration mode is not in evidence and the creature's disappearence my be due to it's own unsual nature when hit by the phasers.
-Mike
And yet the same phaser did NDF-dissolve flesh a few seconds earlier.
The evidence is totally clear on that. The disappearance of the creature shows the same NDF symptoms of the disappearance of the flesh on the skull, and no similarity to the luminous acidic power demonstrated by the creature. The effects are totally different. Plus the effect continued as the phasers were still firing at the creature, while the creature was largely gone. It's harder to claim that the effect was caused by the creature, even while the very same creature was being destroyed, instead of saying that it was caused by weapons still firing at it.
The orange glowing NDF fringe-wave is also totally consistent with other NDF cases from other episodes.