Mike DiCenso
Admiral Kanos is most certainly one of them; a projection of Wong as Admiral Thrawn. Chang appears to not be Wong per se, but rather is Wong's idea of another Versus participant named Peter Chung, and none too flattering as Peter was one of the early pro-Trek debaters. Ruk is definitely a Wong puppet, including his very un-Jedi like reactions. There are a few others, but they play somewhat minor roles as simple mouth-pieces for Wong.
-Mike
Admiral Kanos was pretty apparent I think, but he's the thing that sort of tipped off Ruk being too (even though I have zero knowledge of the EU). The reason is due to the way they act; they both treat the Federation officers are immoral scum in their own way, they just have a different method of going about it. Didn't know Chang was a cheap shot through.
Enosh wrote:
I usualy have no problems with SDN and wong, but this one is realy kinda stupid, I realy can't understand why he needed to spin the whole point of the federation to "zomg they are all mind controlling the population and putting funny stuff into the watter" that's realy some of the bigest bullshit I have read in quite a while and I just "facepalmed" when i was reading it.
and for what porpuse? realy I don't know, whats the point of painting the federation as some sick opressive regime that is mindcotrolling the population?
and looks like I realy need to read "conquest" I asume that's the fanfic everyone is talking about^^
Well, it's probably for the reason that his pet franchise needs to have complete and utter superiority. Yes, in his mind he's won the debate on what woudl happen if we compared their military technology, but that's not enough for him. He wants scientific superiority in every aspect. But even that fails at some point. But then it comes down to the fact that when you compare both, Star Trek is simply better in the area of value. Star Wars is great and revolutionized the movie industry, but his stories and characters are shallow and taken from another source, even if placed in a great setting. It's pretty much just all show and no substance. Trek in this respect, has until recently, been the polar opposite. They've worked with much smaller budgets and worse special effects for a great deal of the time, but the substance of the show is excellent. You have episodes like Inner Light, City on the Edge of Forever, All Good Things, The Void, Sacrifice of Angels, In the Pale Moon Light, Homefront-Paradise Lost, Deja Q, Q Who, and so much more. True, some of their movies like ST I, Search for Spock, Final Frontier, Generations, and Insurrection weren't all that great (although only STI was truly unwatchable in my opinion...just too damn long), but there have been fantastic movies such as Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home, Undiscovered Country, and First Contact were all great movies. Hell, despite the horrible glaring flaws in ST X, I'm willing to at least agree with Confused Matthew that it did have strong points, and those strong points were fucking amazing. The only thing that truly ruined it was the ending and the rape scene (not to studios; we don't want to see Troi raped again. 1) she's married. 2) she's too old. 3) that's just disgusting...no really).
And look at Star Wars.
It has...A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. That's the high point of the movie series. Return of the Jedi was alright, but the Ewoks would ruin it for any hardcore fan, especially a warsie. Phantom Menace was just a slap in the face, followed by Lucas putting his wang on their shoulder with Attack of the Clones, and finally finishing it off with something that didn't totally want to make you vomit...but still sucked, Revenge of the Sith. Aside from that, all you have is the new cartoon series, which is something they probably hate even more.
1) Quality
The Quality of CW is not as great as anyone probably would have wanted given that it's Lucas Arts and this should be an epic war. The CGI is just passible, but it probably isn't the wors.
2) Low Firepower and Instances
Possibly the most aggrivating ones for them thus far, the firepower of the series is not what their collective delusion invented for themselves. The firepower is so low in some cases, that I'm starting to think that Lucas really does see them as just giant space navy ships that fight.
3) It's a kid's show
This I honestly believe pisses them off more than anything. Although George has clearly put forth that Star Wars is for kids (at least now), they can't really let that work for them. Star Wars is after all, serious business...and I do mean that. Every Warsie treats the Empire like it's some sort of super advanced, hardcore series, but in reality, it's just a space opera for kids...and at least half of it sucked.
In other words, Wong treats ST the way he did because it made him feel better about his sad, pathetic little sci-fi series that just isn't what he wants it to be.