l33telboi wrote:Mr. Oragahn wrote:The style of the show which takes severe liberties at times, either with people's moves or else
Hardly important. It's stylized CGI. I don't see why this would impact anything on the versus debate.
It's actually pretty important because not only does TCW qualify as canon, but it's a higher level of canon than, what, the vast majority of the EU? Didn't we establish that TCW is second only to the movies and novelizations of the movies in terms of canon status?
Of course, what you say is absolutely, 100% true. Now I know what I'm about to say is controversial, especially given that I'm going to say it on a vs. debate forum, but it does highlight how frustrating if not downright stupid the versus debate can be.
and the gross physics errors, make this material rather dubious to use for nitpicky analysis like it's applied to the movies.
Because Star Wars movies had no physics errors? The problem here isn't that it's CGI. The problem is that it's Star Wars. Fantasy in space. It never made sense, and never will
Well...yeah. In a lot of ways I think the whole versus debate completely misses the point of either franchise (the other being ST, of course). But of course this is for a separate rant/topic.
(unless you look to authors other then George Lucas and massive re-design the franchise).
Oh God.
I highlighted the bold part because I think this is the intended sole purpose of websites like SDN and even the SWTC and the true intent of persons like Wong and Saxton. They want to basically reinvent someone else's intellectual property into their own image, or more precisely to make Star Wars more "hard" because apparently for some reason "hard = better." This definitely seems to be the mindset as indicated by
Atomic Rockets of the Space Patrol, which I should point out is maintained and owned by Nyrath, a member of SDN (as supported by numerous comments and references within that website), and is closely associated with RedImperator, also of SDN, once again as indicated by numerous references and comments throughout that website.
I'm not saying that hard science fiction is bad (big Niven fan here, and I'll admit to being a very big fan of Nyrath's website; in fact I wish it had its own forum community), but the whole attitude is suspect to say the least, especially when they seem so feverant to apply it to someone else's intellectual property. Past trends also suggest that sometimes the science can get simply
too hard at the detriment of the story itself. This is a common complaint for more casual Niven fans/readers, especially of his later works, and it reminds me of episodes of The Simpsons (and a storyline from the short-lived Simpsons comic strip) and Mission Hill which precisely parody this mindset. I know Nyrath's website openly states that science must be respected, but c'mon, science fiction is hardly expected to make up for the lack of quality education in schools, or am I expected to believe that we should retroactively rework Homer's works to make them more authentic to Ancient Greece, lest we be worried that our middle and high school children start worshipping ancient pagan dieties?
But I've already ranted too much on a topic that richly deserves its own thread if not board. Hell, I could probably write a whole book on this topic, and who knows, maybe I will.