I would say here that the earlier model type 2 stays green all the way up to max setting. Reference.Mike DiCenso wrote: Well, as a rebuttal, it's not all that good.
-Can't see the setting? Let's look at a high-def image from Trekcore:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16/ ... hd_265.jpg
You can see the phaser settings, but just barely. There is no sign of the red bar indicator that 395 has pointed out that would indicate they are set to maximum. Only green is visible.
*Of course in truth, I'm not really sure how this particular model behaves. It is obviously significantly different from the others.*
My response here would be that you can't prove that is not a lighter alloy, and that even a wall made with layers of steel and plastic isn't much better. Alternating layers could make the wall half plastic, or more.- As for plasteel, the link you sent to was about an automobile that uses one of several patented name brands. But it could just as easily use like this Plasteel which is a fairly thick core of steel encased in plastic.
Here, I would point back to the second picture with Worf, then point you to this reference: http://www.propstore.com/product/star-t ... er-phaser/- Thickness of the plasteel and size of the hole:
Tasha standing right next to hole immediately after cutting through:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16/ ... hd_269.jpg
Worf and Tasha next to the hole:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16/ ... hd_271.jpg
Interesting here is that we can not only gauge the thickness of the material (compare the thickness of the plasteel to Worf's extended hand with the phaser), as well as the width of the hole cut, but we can see around the outside edges significant carbon scoring as well. The wall is at least 8 cm thick and really given that we are viewing it at a three quarter angle, likely 9-10 cm. The hole is easily 1.5 meters tall compared to the 1.85 m tall Worf, and about as wide. So both phasers cut an approximately 2.25 square meter hole out of 10 cm thick material.
This puts the phaser's width at 8 cm. The phaser in Worf's hand is still behind the wall, yet it's width appears to exceed the depth of the wall. Then I would reference this picture:
http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/1x16/ ... hd_272.jpg
Using this picture, and your given height of Worf of 1.85 meters, would put the slab on the floor at no more than 7 cm.
*In truth, my original guestimation put the wall between 3-4 inches, my smart arse "underestimate" may actually be right...*
Then, using the same picture, and the same 1.85 height of Worf as a gauge, I would put the hole in the wall at no more than 1.2 meters tall. I would then cry foul at the originally referenced video:
That video has been sped up! Lies! Manipulations! It actually took longer to cut through! Yadda yadda.Mike DiCenso wrote: You can see it here starting at 104:46 and ending at 104:56.
*I know the video is altered by the poster on youtube to evade copyright infringements*
Also, when we actually see cutting happen, the rate is much slower than what is implied by the 10 seconds *about 13, unaltered* of elapsed time on the video. It completely ignores the cut scenes, the whole operation could have taken a minute or more.
*Bonus points for role reversal.*
I would say here, that the admiral could hardly order them to vaporize a clean and quiet hole in the wall as was done in TNG: Chain of Command, if in fact the phaser was incapable of doing more than barely cutting through it to form the perimeter of a hole.We also have to bear in mind that Worf and Tasha were ordered to cut a way through, not blast or vaporize, which keeps in with the landing party's goal of rescuing hostages might be on the other side of that wall:
*As I said above, I'm not really sure what the original "dustbuster" model type II looks like at max setting. But I'm sure a determined arguer would push for it being on max.*Also, you can clearly see that the phaser setting indicator is showing green, not red or yellow on Worf's phaser, though it is possible Worf has just set his phaser back to stun settings. In fact, we know that the green lights indicate a higher than stun setting since Picard orders phasers back to stun when it falls under an ambush by Karna's soldiers:
Again, speaking for my personal take on phaser power, I agree, but again, if the reader doesn't want to accept it, there's just enough room to fight this example.So in conclusion, not only can a mere hand phasers cut through the steelplast, and what is likely a mid-range setting in matter of seconds.