Re: Is avatar movie is good than titanic and star wars?

Cocytus · Post by **Cocytus** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:48 am

I have actually never seen Avatar. It simply held no interest for me.

But I'm replying to throw in a good word for Titanic, because it holds a special place. If you're a raving ocean liner fanatic, as I am, if you pour hundreds of hours, not to mention dollars, into meticulous models of long-scrapped and often long-forgotten ships, as I do, then Titanic takes on a special depth and meaning totally lost on all the pubescent children crying over Leo. The true star of the film is the ship, and Cameron recreated her in painstaking, magnificent detail. It is probably the closest I will ever get to experiencing what she was really like. And if you know who all the backgorund characters are supposed to be and what their stories were, the film just gets better. Cameron has taken some historical license, as with Molly Brown, but overall the film is a fantastic excursion for ocean liner buffs. I'd like to see someone give the Lusitania or the Andrea Doria a similarly lavish treatment. It might not work quite as well, since the Titanic has a powerful combination of poignancy and gravitas, but I'd still pay to see them.

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Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:22 pm

This thread is a bit off-topic to the Trek/ Wars forum, so it gets moved.
-Mike

Post by **Mike DiCenso** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 3:11 pm

Cocytus wrote:I have actually never seen Avatar. It simply held no interest for me.

But I'm replying to throw in a good word for Titanic, because it holds a special place. If you're a raving ocean liner fanatic, as I am, if you pour hundreds of hours, not to mention dollars, into meticulous models of long-scrapped and often long-forgotten ships, as I do, then Titanic takes on a special depth and meaning totally lost on all the pubescent children crying over Leo. The true star of the film is the ship, and Cameron recreated her in painstaking, magnificent detail. It is probably the closest I will ever get to experiencing what she was really like. And if you know who all the backgorund characters are supposed to be and what their stories were, the film just gets better. Cameron has taken some historical license, as with Molly Brown, but overall the film is a fantastic excursion for ocean liner buffs. I'd like to see someone give the Lusitania or the Andrea Doria a similarly lavish treatment. It might not work quite as well, since the Titanic has a powerful combination of poignancy and gravitas, but I'd still pay to see them.

I love ocean liners and maritime history in general as well. The movie "Titanic" was flawed, but it is one that has a solid basis in fact, and is quite lavish in it's attention to the important real-life ship and background details. Would I have prefered a more documentary style story than the half-fictional one of Rose and Jack? You betcha. But such an might have wound up being another "A Night to Remember" retelling, and really there's only one ANtoR!

As for Lusitania or Andrea Doria getting movies. Not likely gonna happen. As terrible as what happened to Lucy was, even her sinking never had quite the same impact as the Titanic's, not to mention her sinking was very fast compared to Titanic's, going down in just 18 minutes versus 2 hours and 40 minutes. No time for any real drama or introspection. There was a BBC mini-series based around the Lucy's sinking, but it mostly focused on events prior to and in the aftermath of the sinking, rather than the actual sinking itself.

Andrea Doria's sinking, while sad, is not even in the first two ship's league. Dispite a crippling collision with the Stockholm the little Italian liner stayed afloat long enough (11 hours) for everyone to be safely evacuated from the ship except those 46 persons unfortunate enough to be killed by Stockholm's bow when it sliced into the Andrea Doria's starboard side. Also again, unlike Titanic, the Andrea Doria's sinking had no major impact on the world, no end of innocence of an age, and little in the way of changes to maritime procedures.
-Mike

Mith · Post by **Mith** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:59 pm

No. Avatar was a piece of CGI shit that went on too long. The fact that it almost seemed to think it was special or something did more to annoy me. I couldn't even really watch it, it was that bad. I was actually doing something on my computer while it was playing.

Praeothmin · Post by **Praeothmin** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 2:27 pm

I loved it for the CGI porn, and the story wasn't worse than most of the movies that came out in the last 10 years...

Khas · Post by **Khas** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:46 pm

Avatar: Dances With Ferngully In Space! With 10-Foot-Tall Smurf-Furry Hybrids! And No Subtlety! And Cardboard Characters! And A Thread About The Klingons, Protoss, And Jaffa Invading It!

Avatar was about about as subtle as that. With a character who I swear is a Napoleon Dynamite clone.

Praeothmin · Post by **Praeothmin** » Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:44 pm

Like I said, the story was as good as most of the movies that came out in the last 10 years... :)

Mr. Oragahn · Post by **Mr. Oragahn** » Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:12 pm

You guys realized the OP didn't give a damn about your opinions, right?