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Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:06 am
by Lucky
Picard wrote:As it is probably about discussion, this is what I used on my blog:

SW
All 6 movies
All movie novelizations
Not a fan of the CGI series that makes up T canon? I consider it better then most of the Star Wars Movies and Novelizations.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 6:52 pm
by Picard
EU is such confusion that I avoid it in general - at least when it comes to ST-vs-SW discussion.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:23 pm
by Lucky
Picard wrote:EU is such confusion that I avoid it in general - at least when it comes to ST-vs-SW discussion.
As I understand it T canon is not a part of the Star Wars EU, and anything in the EU/C, S canon that disagrees with it is now N canon.

The acting and sound quality is better then the movies anyway, and the stories are good. Even Jar Jar is tolerable.

The executive producer(s) are George Lucas and Catherine Winder, and I seem to recall reading articles that said that Lucas had direct input on the series..
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/TCW

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:49 pm
by Picard
Well, I just took time to actually read intro post and realizet it isn't about discussion at all. My recommendations therefore go as following:
ST:
TOS:
"I, Mudd" -ESPECIALLY THAT ONE. Fun like hell, and has lot of good points about modern society
"Whom Gods Destroy"
"The Arena"
"Galileo Seven"
and rest of series, if you have time.

TNG:
"Encounter at Farpoint"
"The Chase"
"Pegasus"
"Redemption"
"The Wounded" - Ben Maxwell and the crew.
"Cause and Effect"
"Datalore"
"Silicon Avatar"
"Outrageous Okona" - as in title
"Arsenal of Freedom"
"Relics" - good ol' Scotty back again
and rest of series, if you have time.

DS9:
"Sacrifice of Angels"
"For the Cause"
"Soldiers of the Empire"
"Empok Nor"
"Civil Defense"
"The Jem'Hadar" - Quark/Sisko discussing humans and Federation is MUST

VOY:
"Timeless"
"Endgame" - Yaneway, crazy as ever... except there are now two of them


STAR WARS:
Star Wars:
All 6 movies
All 6 novelizations

EU:
Thrawn Trilogy

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:38 am
by mojo
i loved every damn piece of sw zahn ever wrote, and he had the funniest ongoing gag joke in the EU imo when everyone kept saying that lando calrissian had pointlessly and uselessly chased a ship 'halfway across the galaxy'. something about that absolutely KILLED me, and it was repeated a dozen times.

i'm pretty sure it was also zahn who wrote the line 'Quite unfairly, the alarm went off just as Wedge started on his dessert.' then wedge considers jamming a whole piece of cake into his mouth as he bolts for his ship, but decides it would set a bad example. zahn has a hell of a knack for humor, or at least for my kind of humor.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:24 am
by Picard
I can't negate that. But so far "Rise of the Dark Force" is only EU novel I ever read.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:20 pm
by Praeothmin
Yeah, if you want to read the EU, read the Zahn novels, they are definitely some of the best.
Vector Prime, from Salvatore is also good... But I'm a Salvatore fan, so I'm a bit biased... :)

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:56 pm
by Khas
I like Zahn's writing too, even though the only SW book by him I've read is "Survivor's Quest".

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 6:40 am
by mojo
that was a good one. but then again i think they are all good ones.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:29 am
by Airlocke_Jedi_Knight
Khas wrote:I like Zahn's writing too, even though the only SW book by him I've read is "Survivor's Quest".
You fail at life. You shall now read read "Heir to the Empire" and its corresponding sequels to make up for your failure.


Seriously, I am biased and love pretty much all of the EU books I have read(WELL over 50 novels) but the Zahn books are very good novels, not just good SW novels, but good novels. Give them a look. They're not literary masterpieces or anything, just damn good reads.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:12 pm
by Khas
Would it help if I told you that I've read one of his original works as well?

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 4:35 am
by mojo
'heir to the empire' forced me to enter the eu. i thought it was that good. but you can skip the duology without missing anything.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:23 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
Might be of interest: Star Wars EU: Opinions?

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:16 am
by Sothis
Darth Plaguieus (sure I spelt that wrong but meh) is a good read. I think it's designed to make us hate Palpatine all the more. Any chance that he may have had redeemable qualities ends with this book.

Re: Star Wars/Star Trek "Must See/Read" list

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:55 pm
by Mr. Oragahn
Sothis wrote:Darth Plaguieus (sure I spelt that wrong but meh) is a good read. I think it's designed to make us hate Palpatine all the more. Any chance that he may have had redeemable qualities ends with this book.
You mean they protray Plagueis as a sort of "grey area" guy who might have represented a better future, perhaps, because he wandered where the Jedi were to afraid to go?
Or was he painted as a plain badass vilain we wish had still been there?