Show me where Culture ships can release their weapons in a spherical path. Also, doing so would also hit their own ships. Not a good idead.
The Culture weapons are not intended to be released in a spherical path; we're talking an alpha-strike, not a spherical wave. Basically, concentrated firepower on single
vessels. The Culture has more than enough ships with which to perform that strategy.
Oh, brother. They're given no warning beforehand, but they do have the ability to detect the creation/closure of wormholes.
Of which they shall detect nothing else
due to the Sleeper Service being in Hyperspace. Until such a time that they're all being turned into loosely scattered atoms.
Except the nature of the older/younger universe relationship is a phase variance of the same reality. The Federation has show the ability to scan phase variances in a singular reality. One instance was those 'spirits of good fortune' making passageways into their reality and Voyager's scanners picking up what the energy was and counteracting the opening when they appeared.
Prove that anything, anything
in the Federation can react fast enough to a strike from a ship that remains in hyperspace, and would also deduct that the things that are in
hyperspace are actually ships and not some other unexplained phenomena. Not to mention that the Culture also has superior-enough sensors as to be able to record detailed events from across whole sectors
without too much application of power, so they'll be ready for whatever the Federation has planned.
Uh huh. So, we've gone from using their weapons directly, to doing it indirectly. Fine.
It's just part of a strategy.
The explosions of stars are limited to far less than c. Wen the star in Generations exploded, the shockwave was almost right on top of the E-D and it easily escaped. Anything with an impulse drive of substantial speed can outrun the wave from a supernova.
Colonies, starbases and planets can't.
CAMs use wormholes, which the Federation has detected many many times. There have been both temporal and spatial distortions that have been detected on their own.
They also happen to be there and over with again within nanoseconds. The Federation hasn't got
that sort of reaction time to be able to do anything about it. All they'll get is the ghost of a blip and then bang
as shitloads of collapsed antimatter is shoved in their faces.
Plus, wormhole usage is dependent upon size. I've ever heard of The Culture moving the entry/exit points of wormholes after the wormhole has been established.
Living beings have been displaced from one FTL moving ship to another during the events of Excession. You have no point here.
And if they were to tranport a black hole, the transporting wormhole would need to be of an appreciable size, so the black hole doesn't burn itself out almost immediately. That wormhole is gonna be huge, too. With FTL sensors, they detect a black hole is coming through and what has propulsion leaves the area, while those not on them are trying to get aboard something to get away.
They won't have time
to react since the vessels are crewed by humans with human reaction speeds, see all of my examples above; there is no way for the Federation to survive this.
Voyager did a mass transport of an entire klingon crew at a single time to save their lives. It bypassed security protocols, but it was do-able.
And the Sleeper Service displaced tens of thousands of people faster
than the USS Voyager did. You're dealing with a situation of 'anything the Feds can do the Culture can do better'.
Your continued insistence of not factoring in the other side is typical.
Your continued insistence of completely ignoring what the Culture is actually
capable of is mindboggling.
Oh, god. You're deliberately making this too easy, aren't you? You said they're showing up in the middle of Federation space. This isn't the fringes of Federation space. There are sensors everywhere, and along with FTL sensors, yes. Yes, they are gonna pick up the wormhole that allows them to get to Federation space.
And all they'll detect is the wormhole. Nothing else that indicates a ship, and they have nothing that can react in time.
So, I'm right. They aren't always in hyperspace. Besides, the Federation has often detected phase variances of a single universe before.
Hyperspace is a completely different dimension, not a phase variance.
What's stupid is how they classified what they're gonna protect against. Force v Energy. Trapdoors work against energy. Gravity is classified as a force. It's stupidity. And after the Culture-Idiran war, you'd think they'd have changed that, in case someone else they came upon was using gravitic weapons. That would be forward thinking.
Forcefields, which the Culture has in abundance, protect against force, funnily enough how you tend to forget that little tidbit.
That didn't really help during the Culture-Idiran war, remember? They might have won, but it wasn't because of fields getting rid of an appreciable amount of gravitational energy.
They were dealing with a foe that had generally equal technology and basic battle computers that can react fast enough to compete with Culture ships. The Idirans themselves
would steamroll the Federation without so much as a yawn.
They can't dodge when the energy is showing up on the inside of their ships and stations.
They can't pull off this insane plan if they don't survive to start doing it.
Data has nothing to do with this.
There's no one else in the Federation smart enough to pull off this plan within the very small preparation time required. And if there's only one or two ships left, there isn't much of a Federation left, to be honest.
As if. We know full well that it is a fact that these 2 cultures are fiction. Your manufactured 'interesting situation' is grandstanding.
You're the one who used the word 'reality'.
The only thing I'm obsessed with is logic and it's judicial application. Don't blame me when you keep wanting to ignore evidence. It also isn't my fault that Trek has shown the technology of the Federation to be so versatile. Blame them, not me.
I don't blame you for the technology of Trek, I blame you for coming up with something that I've shown
will not work.
You don't need an exhaustive analysis to have this particular inspiration. If all you're expecting Federation people, particularly scientists, to do is think of using the ways that have been used in the past, the Federation would have never gotten to where they are today.
Yes, can they do it in microseconds?
Ha!! I could say the same thing about warp drive because of its temporal manipulations of circumventing the relativistic effects by surrounding shit in warp fields, which are subspace fields. And a subspace field is what was used to temporally phase Data. That isn't magic tech. That's applied science.
Applied science that won't ever happen. And is also pseudoscientific garbage from Trek writers.
Fluidic space itself is not an external entity. It's physical space.
Physical space that can't actually be reached.
What you're calling 'deus ex machina Data-ism' is applied science.
See two statements above.
Regardless, the technology exists, whether they choose to use it or not. The borg are not the issue. By that logic, there shouldn't be any photon torpedoes anymore, but they're still around.
Thank you for proving how utterly backwards and stupid the Federation actually is. You've just proved that they can't
pull off your stupid scenario because they are't smart enough. Not that it matters, they'll be completely annihilated before they get to that point.
See above where I said unloading all weapons in a spherical pattern would hit their own ships, as well as where I reminded you that you said they were appearing in the middle of the Federation.
I never once said spherical pattern, I said alpha-strike. You're putting words in my mouth. I've also clarified why the Federation won't be making any movements towards warfare of that level any time soon, and also given valid reasons for why the Federation won't prepare for war just because of some silly phase variances.
I'll accept your concession as you leave.