Mr. Oragahn wrote: The portable nq reactor is stable.
I said that using the output when it was destroying itself was not a valid way to judge the capabilities of a generator.
The method I bring forth allows anyone to know how much that reactor contains. The energy produced for the explosion if from the naqahdah fuel itself, nothing else.
So it tells us, in a rather clear way, how much energy can be harnassed.
Now, an explosion isn't the best way to extract energy from the fuel, especially since the device is absolutely not
built as a bomb. A careful, stable process that is part of an entire power plant design is certainly best suited to extract down to the last joule of energy from the fuel than a quickly cooked up bomb. So the energy figure extracted from the explosion is more than likely a conservative one on these grounds alone.
Also, for each case of a nq generator being modified into a bomb, each one had been used before hand, so we're never basing the calculations from the maximum fuel carried within the device. Which means it is another proof that the figures are conservative.
Nonetheless, from the energetic figure we've got, and used alongside facts we possess about the Mark-II's solid case, a reactor that was only superior in that it produced six times more power (and thus drained the fuel six times faster), including how long it took to drain its fuel, we can get the power output.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: There's at the very least around 83 terajoules of energy which can be extracted from an already used reactor (the one McKay rigged to blow up).
Some other estimates of mine would allow the device to easily hold around a quarter of a megaton of energy or quite more (based on other cases of nq generators turned into nukes).
How much fuel can be stored in the tank really isn't very relavent.
On the contrary, it's highly relevant to the calculation about the device's power output
, as I explained above.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: It can be pushed under stable conditions to an output in the 2 digits gigawatt range, for what would be roughly half an hour.
A Mark I Naquadha generator is about the size of a twelve pack of 12 ounce pop cans
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A Mark 2 Naquadha generator is larger then three, 24 can cases of pop
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A Subelectron Amplifier is slightly smaller then a single 12 ounce can of pop, and includes what is described as an infinite amount of fuel. It was intended to power a city.
Of a level of technology greatly inferior to Atlantis or any modern city as a matter of fact.
The outputs per volume are going to come out about the same when comparing the S.A. to the Mark 1.
I gave you the figures for the Mark-I. You haven't produced one single piece of evidence that the SA is even remotely approaching this kind of power.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: Such a reactor has been also used to provide most of the power to a starship used in a race which had ships circle a Sol-like star.
Which is an unquantifiable event because ships use space magic drives for propulsion.
The reactor also powered the defenses (shield). At such a close range, the power requirements are going to be enormous.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: We haven't seen anything like that coming from the SA.
We are told the purpose for which it was created, and that requires a few hundred megawatts at least.
Which would still come at the very one order of magnitude below a Mark-I Nq reactor.
We see the lightning gun shattering rock and concrete. We see the gun repeatedly create craters curb to curb at street level.
The same device fired a bolt that could disintegrate the hull of a plane. It also has "space magic" to destroy matter.
We don't know how the energy couples with the ground and therefore how it amplifies (or not) any ground detonation.
You may need to find another link to the video because it doesn't seem to work anymore so I can't verify your claims.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: Even if a nq generator was fifty times bigger, the normal power output divided by fifty is still superior to anything I've seen the SA output under normal use.
We never see the SA under normal/intended operating conditions, but it appears to work through some sort of piezoelectric like effect.
Given the purpose the SA was created to fill we can easily conclude that it is just as good if not better by volume. It would need to generator a few hundred megawatts after all, and that seems to fit with what we see.
Which again is considerably below the output of the not so much bigger Nq reactor Mark-I.
Besides, there's no proof whatsoever that the SW could output more under normal use.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: Yes, but it's been used to power a stargate.
Which isn't very quantifiable as far as I know.
I'm working from memories here, but there's an interesting case to look at.
One of the earliest episodes of SG-1 featured SG-1 powering a stargate through lightning bolts during a very violent thunderstorm that was wrecking an old castle built on a cliff. The original DHD had fallen into the sea after a violent bolt ruptured the floor. Stargate can act as superconductors and are damn tough, can store up to vast amount of energy so much as easily tank nuclear explosions and even be powered by them.
The lightning bolts were clearly of the most devastating variety, probably above 100,000 amps. We may be looking at bolts worth of a couple gigajoules each. The stargate was hit a couple times iirc.
This somehow proved just enough to power the stargate. That is assuming the stargate was entirely empty. Since they can be charged, there's never been any evidence that a stargate was completely depleted once the wormhole disconnected.
What this means is that the total energy gotten from the lightning bolts is a conservative value regarding the total energy needed by a stargate to open a wormhole, even on a short range.
The generators brought to Atlantis allowed the expedition team to launch many missions across the Pegasus galaxy for over a year, alongside powering the city and many power hungry systems inside (the last ZPM was barely keeping up when they arrived in the city).
Mr. Oragahn wrote: Reminds me, only Ba'al and Thor have been seen using small devices even tinier than the SA to power a stargate.
That sounds more like garage door opener that just send a signal to something else.
Except that the garage door opener opens a door that is connected to a power grid, which is not the case of a stargate.
The examples I refered to aren't the best ones since there's always the possibility that the stargates were precharged at arrival.
However, Teal'c used the same device as Ba'al's to power the Russian stargate that had been sitting there for eons without ever being powered up.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: Yes, but it looks like this remains pure theory because nothing like that was observed in the episode.
If the S.A. could not do what it was designed to do, then why would they be transporting it with the intent of using it to basically power a city? They clearly tested the Subelectron Amplifier after creating it in a lab.
Please provide a figure about the power requirement of that city, based on what is known from the show.
I want you to explain how two to four lane roads(not briges) were being cratered curb to curb with electrical arcs.
Please explain how a bolt from the same source could disintegrate matter? Isn't it odd?
Please, provide pictures too.
Mr. Oragahn wrote: I'm not talking about why it's rare but comparing it to a power device of equal rarity in Stargate; that, to see what "rare power source" means in each universe.
From the episode there was nothing stopping anyone from making more Subelectron Amplifier. They just chose to make only one because that was all that was needed.
Same could be said about naqahdah generators, the weakest of the power sources from the show.