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Who are the best troops in SciFi?

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:54 pm
by AnonymousRedShirtEnsign
Anything goes as long as it is from science fiction and you make a reasonable case. Canon/ official, no fanfics or like. TV shows, movies, books, and videogames all count.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:00 am
by Nonamer
Anything that has uber personal armor/shielding and have decent weapons pretty much qualify. Sci-fi is simply overrun with incompetent ground forces.

Insane:
TA
Culture
Bolo series

All of them have ground troops that are literally walking nuclear arsenals.

Great:
WH40k
SST (books)

All have heavy power armor and near nuclear level weapons.

Good:
Super Go'auld trooper from SG1 (Kull Warriors I believe)
Starcraft

These are simply unstoppable against realworld soldiers, my personal benchmark to what constitutes "Good" troops.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:04 am
by AnonymousRedShirtEnsign
Spartans from Halo are pretty tough also, and are the closest things to force users outside of Star Wars. And all the terminator models kick some serious ass, although the T-1000 didn't seem as determined as the rest.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:19 pm
by Narsil
Four Daleks were stated as being capable of defeating 5,000,000 Cybermen in Doctor Who. That's essentially 1,250,000 each.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:39 pm
by GStone
Nonamer wrote:Anything that has uber personal armor/shielding and have decent weapons pretty much qualify. Sci-fi is simply overrun with incompetent ground forces.

Insane:
TA
Culture
Bolo series

All of them have ground troops that are literally walking nuclear arsenals.

Great:
WH40k
SST (books)

All have heavy power armor and near nuclear level weapons.

Good:
Super Go'auld trooper from SG1 (Kull Warriors I believe)
Starcraft

These are simply unstoppable against realworld soldiers, my personal benchmark to what constitutes "Good" troops.
What is "TA"?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:01 pm
by Mike DiCenso
The Xeelee and the Photio Birds from Stephen Baxter's Xeelee Sequence novels could wipe the floor with anyone. Period.
-Mike

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:12 pm
by Nonamer
GStone wrote:
Nonamer wrote:Anything that has uber personal armor/shielding and have decent weapons pretty much qualify. Sci-fi is simply overrun with incompetent ground forces.

Insane:
TA
Culture
Bolo series

All of them have ground troops that are literally walking nuclear arsenals.

Great:
WH40k
SST (books)

All have heavy power armor and near nuclear level weapons.

Good:
Super Go'auld trooper from SG1 (Kull Warriors I believe)
Starcraft

These are simply unstoppable against realworld soldiers, my personal benchmark to what constitutes "Good" troops.
What is "TA"?
Total Annihilation. It's an old RTS game that has very realistic combat and ridiculously powerful units that can survive nuke hits.

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:40 pm
by Mike DiCenso
Nonamer wrote:
GStone wrote:
Nonamer wrote:Anything that has uber personal armor/shielding and have decent weapons pretty much qualify. Sci-fi is simply overrun with incompetent ground forces.

Insane:
TA
Culture
Bolo series

All of them have ground troops that are literally walking nuclear arsenals.

Great:
WH40k
SST (books)

All have heavy power armor and near nuclear level weapons.

Good:
Super Go'auld trooper from SG1 (Kull Warriors I believe)
Starcraft

These are simply unstoppable against realworld soldiers, my personal benchmark to what constitutes "Good" troops.
What is "TA"?
Total Annihilation. It's an old RTS game that has very realistic combat and ridiculously powerful units that can survive nuke hits.
I'am just reminded of the old Steve Jackson wargame "Ogre", which has infantry inspired by the powered armor wearing troops from the Starship Troopers books. Those troops were carrying around tactical nukes, and could jump or run across great distances at high speeds. Their armored suits could let them survive a nearby tactical nuke hit, and live for days in a hard-rad enviroment, if need be.

The Ogres of the game's title were massive, super-armored AI controlled tanks that could only be disabled, not necessarily destroyed, by direct tactical nuclear strikes. You could send entire battalions of modern-day tanks against these things with little effect, and modern infantry would be useless.
-Mike

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:16 pm
by iconoclast
Narsil wrote:Four Daleks were stated as being capable of defeating 5,000,000 Cybermen in Doctor Who. That's essentially 1,250,000 each.
Daleks and Cybermen are both pretty powerful, but he said any series, so I'm going with the Green Lantern Corps.

Or maybe I should dig out my Rifts books and see what's really powerful... Like Cosmo Knights. I believe they were originally purposed for taking down capitol ships.