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[User1652]

Let's say before the destruction of the 12 colonies in the NBSG universe they where whisked away to a new universe and that happens to be the Star Trek universe. What would happen if all of the Colonial fleet and everyone in the 12 colonies where taken from whatever they where doing and placed in the Star Trek universe replacing all of Starfleet and where around earth and several nearby colonies. The timeline for this scenario is set 52 years before the construction of the Enterprise NX-01 how will the forces of NBSG fair in the ST universe at this time period? How will first contact go if they make first contact later? How will technology change in the timeline? How will encounter with the Klingons go in this universe?

[Mike DiCenso]

They'd do better than most UES ships of the time (remember there is no official Starfleet yet 50 years prior to ST:ENT), so it would be a big boost up in defensive capability, plus it would introduce a new form of FTL that in many ways is far superior to warp drive with it's ability to jump across many light years in a matter of seconds. A big bargining chip in trade negotiations, and a gigantic boost for space exploration.

Unfortunately, this would probably attract the attentions of the Romulans, Klingons, and other hostile powers that still have beam and torpedo weapons far more powerful and advanced than anything in the Colonial fleet. We've discussed before in other threads that the NX-01, a primitive ship by Trek standards of the 22nd century, could probably hold it's own against the Battlestar Pegasus.
-Mike

[Admiral Breetai]

the harsh colonial mindset and religious zealotry will probably turn the Vulcans away

with out their help- maybe the Andorians if not things will get nasty for the Galaxy as either the Romulans role them up and end up unifying much of the AQ under their power after raiding the dead worlds for their ftl secrets

either way then the Dominion comes things will be different and maybe not for the better

[Picard]

Certainly not for the better. Had it were not for the Federation, Klingons and Romulans would probably keep antagonizing everyone else... (EDIT: and especially one another) - chances are that Dominion would arrive in middle of Klingon-Romulan war to extinction.

[Mike DiCenso]

You guys are forgetting that in the ST:ENT timeline, there is still the Xindi War to consider well before then. Having the large battlestars to go deal with that threat makes things very interesting indeed.

Also I seriously doubt the Vulcans are going to dump a potentially powerful ally when they have to deal with the Andorians, Tellarites, as well as the Klingons and Romulans, among other powers. Most especially the High Command would be very interested in gaining the Colonial's jump drive as that is a major game changing technology.
-Mike

[Picard]

But would they consider it important enough to give, from their own standpoint, quite militaristic Colonials warp cores, shields, energy wepons and photon torpedoes? Beacouse, without that tech (maybe not counting photon torps), Colonials don't stand a chance against anyone. Battlestars may be large, but they're also vulnerable - especially considering that, despite possibly stronger hulls when compared to NX, battlestars are far less manouverable and have outdated weapons and sensors.

[Mike DiCenso]

It hardly matters since the Vulcans really never shared much technology with the UES anyway. But I find it hard to believe that the Vulcans of that time would be stupid enough to turn down a chance to get the Colonials' jump drive technology. That's way too big a strategic game changer for the quadrant.
-Mike

[Admiral Breetai]

plus forty or so billion humans is a bit larger than the ENT time line population and with infrastructure already in place

i wonder how they'd get along with the Andorians and Ferengi?

[Mike DiCenso]

As I pointed out in another thread, the Colonials would likely be completely in a state of culture shock as the politics of United Earth are not only very different from anything they are used to, but the fact that there are not only one or two, but many thousands of alien sapient species running around out in the galaxy would be mind-boggling to many of them.
-Mike