A nonserious "Situation" of mayhem

[sonofccn]

The Good News: You awaken on board a defiant class starship with a fully loyal crew, a database on every major weapon or technology produced by the Federation, Klingon or Romulans up to the 24th century and a squad of maco marines. The ship itself is on the edge of the outer rim in the Star Wars galaxy shortly after the events of ROTS.

The Bad News: This reality incursion is not the last but only the first in a wave of increasing...not niceness to befall this particular galaxy.

5 years from "now" the Terran Confederacy( Star Craft) dozen or so worlds will appear on the outer rim.

10 years from "now" a dozen wormholes will open up randomly across the galaxy connecting to a 23rd century Terran Empire ( Star Trek)

15 years from "now" Apophis( Star Gate) holdings and fleet as of the first season appear in the galaxy.

20 years from "now" The Protoss homeworld( Star Craft) and it's entire fleet as of just before the first game appears in the outer rim.

25 years from "now" A single outer rim world is replaced with a planetiod of equal mass but has been fully infested by replicators (Star Gate).

35 years from "now" a single wormhole opens up connecting the galaxy to the Borg who decide to assimilate it at all costs.

45 years from "now" the Tyranids invasion fleet.

The goal: Your "holy" mission is simple. Ensure that 51% of the galaxy's population survives these upheavals. You can do this any method you see fit. This is a test of imagination and creative thinking so hopefully we'll get some interesting response.

Here are a few of my semi-random thoughts

0. Set up base of operations on a small moon somewhere, out of the way.

1. Allow Palpy to cement his hold over the galaxy, there are ten years before a credible threat actually emerges after all, after obtaining from him a sample of his DNA. Sensors plus transporters, plus stun phasers plus memory erasing is your friend.

2. Create clone of Palpy and accelerate age to approximate level. Indoctrinate it to be loyal to me and once complete replace real emperor with my own.

3.Design heavy battle droid consisting of Duranium armor, anti-gravity hover sled as opposed to feet, M/AM reactor if possible otherwise Fusion, built in replicator for replenishing projectile based ammo, cannon capable of firing rocket propelled tactical fission warheads with photon torpedo tracking sensors and targeting thrusters, tricorder type sensors built into the droid, rapid fire blaster for close range incursions, low powered transporter for projectile weapons, and personal shielding. Yeah I know I'm compensating for something ;-) but I think that could cut a hole through the enemy.

4. Design a more practical droid that still utilizes hoversled, personal shielding and uses a heavy duty phaser weapon as primary gun. built in transporter plasma mortar optional add on.

5. Klingon style cloaks...every ship in the fleet. If possible every tank in the army as well.

[Praeothmin]

5. Klingon style cloaks...every ship in the fleet. If possible every tank in the army as well.

Since you've got the Defiant, you've got a working Romulan cloaking device, which is even better then a Klingon one...

[Enosh]

I realy don't think that capturing and mind fucking someone like palpatine is as easy as you present it...

[sonofccn]

I realy don't think that capturing and mind fucking someone like palpatine is as easy as you present it..

Well first as the title says this isn't a strictly serious thread I wanted it to be fun but anyway movie version Palpy is less then impressive. He isn't omnipotent by half, ROTJ as example, and like all jedi sith is vulnerable to the physical expect of reality. So a phaser set to stun on the bewildered Emperor after he has just moments ago been snatched from his office should work. Memory erasing is a relatively standard procedure from 23rd onward and while it isn't always 100% effective on all species unless the emperor isn't physically human I don't see why it wouldn't work on him.

Now as I implied that was my first thought on the subject to fulfill the mission parameters. A spur of the moment idea so to speak. I welcome your ideas to complete the mission.

Since you've got the Defiant, you've got a working Romulan cloaking device, which is even better then a Klingon one...

I guess I just chose the Klingon one because I like Klingons as opposed to the back stabbing Romulans. As I said these were just my random thoughts on the subject. I'm curious to what you would do however.

[Mike DiCenso]

As for cloaking devices are concerned, I'd rather have the Scimitar's cloaking device, which not only allows you to fire with impunity while cloaked, but still remain undetected and shielded! ;-)
-Mike

[Jedi Master Spock]

IMO, a dozen worlds from the Terran Confederacy are not a significant problem, so I'm going to think about things on the ten-year scale first. What that means is getting in touch with scientists and technology specialists. I'm going to strategically leak technology, especially to the Rebels, but I'll assume that the Empire will also gain technology I leak - eventually.

The Death Star needs to be discouraged. It won't help against these enemies; fleets of conventional ships will.

I also will want to "acquire" - possibly kidnap, if necessary - a cadre of highly intelligent SW natives, and educate them in how to teach people how to use and adapt to rapidly changing technology. I'll be leaking technology like a sieve, everything except weapons of mass civilian destruction, like trilithium torpedoes.

That and developing holocourses will be useful, because then I can widely dissimulate educational programs and get people up to speed on unfamiliar technology. So perhaps I'll need my officers to found front organizations that are institutions of higher learning. This will be tricky, but worthwhile.

The Terran Empire is a lot more ruthless, but after ten years, everybody from the Mon Calamari to the Imperials should have every bit of technology they do - and vastly more resources. They might even be a tenth as heavily militarized. I expect the two Empires will find they have more in common with the budding rebellions underfoot. However, we now have access to wormholes to another galaxy! Moreover, dozens of wormholes!

Now is the time to send people over to the safety of another galaxy that isn't being invaded. Start a mass migration movement into the new galaxy. By "mass migration," we might mean "slave trade." Whatever gets them out of harm's way. It might just be possible to hide a significant population in this other galaxy. Maybe even a full percent or two before the Tyranids come, if we have enough wormholes and enough large ships, and if things are close to the wire, I might need them to reach 51%.

Not sure how powerful Apophis is.

Now, the Protoss appear in the outer rim. My opinion? Just let them be. They're religious fanatics, but they're mainly concerned with Zerg. Incorporate any new technology made available by Protoss hardware that falls into our hands, certainly - and at this point, we've spent twenty years educating people on how to adapt unfamiliar types of technology. The Empire should, however, be falling apart.

The Replicators show up. Hard quarantine. Perhaps sic the Protoss on them; maybe a trilthium torpedo straight to the sun from one of my ships, if I can catch them fast enough. IIRC, Replicators don't maintain population.

At this point, Palpatine has probably been killed by Luke and the Force re-balanced and all that. The Borg will be coming in ten years, and I have technology only a little better than the Federation.

Time to set up sleeper cells. Selling 51% of the galaxy into slavery and shipping them in giant crate-ships across the galactic border with the Terrain Empire would be a winning strategy if it were practical, and so is this: Hand the galaxy over to the Borg as peacefully as possible.

Nothing insures survival like turning everybody into Borg drones on ships that the Tyranids probably can't catch.

[l33telboi]

I wouldn't exactly describe the Protoss as either religious or fanatical. For one thing, they don't appear to have a religion at all, or worship a higher power of any kind. But I can easily see how someone might perceive them as religious, "The Templar Caste", "Zealots", "High Templars", all those labels are often used in conjunction with religion, but not so in this case. Saying they're fanatical is perhaps a little more justified, but they fanaticism is tied to defending their homeworld and way of life.

The Protoss main worries seems to be with maintaining the Dae'Uhl, which is basically a pact they made long ago to defend and watch over lesser races in the galaxy. The only reason they attacked the Zerg was because they were a clear threat to other races, as well as themselves.

[Enosh]

Nothing insures survival like turning everybody into Borg drones on ships that the Tyranids probably can't catch.

except that they don't want to catch any ships...

[sonofccn]

As for cloaking devices are concerned, I'd rather have the Scimitar's cloaking device, which not only allows you to fire with impunity while cloaked, but still remain undetected and shielded! ;-)
-Mike

No. Only my flagship gets that, with any other high tech goodie I can think of, everyone else in the fleet must decloak to fire. Just in case any officer get's itchy trigger fingers you understand and try to replace me. :)

IMO, a dozen worlds from the Terran Confederacy are not a significant problem

I place them at comparable to 22nd century trek more or less but with less politcal stability then the Xindi. So yes very easy to defeat.

Not sure how powerful Apophis is.

The lose of two Ha'tak vessels was considered a serious blow against him but it might have been the fact he lost them to Earth prompting the sharks to circle and weakening him further off screen.

The Replicators show up. Hard quarantine. Perhaps sic the Protoss on them; maybe a trilthium torpedo straight to the sun from one of my ships, if I can catch them fast enough. IIRC, Replicators don't maintain population.

I don't know about retaining thier numbers but they are pretty adaptable. If given enough time and numbers they could build a ship out of thier own blocks and escape out into space regardless if anyone drops by. You exploding sun idea sounds safer.

Nothing insures survival like turning everybody into Borg drones on ships that the Tyranids probably can't catch.

All in all I think this was a wonderfuly creative plan but wouldn't the Borg simply fight the Tyranids resulting in the death of the Borg/galaxy inhabitences your trying to save? The borg don't tend to run away very often after all.

[sonofccn]

IMHO political stability during this crisis would be paramount. The Empire dislution roughly twenty years hence would sow nothing but confusion and fragment the galaxy just it's greatest threats are arrving. Therefore it must remain to provide a solid counter block to the inhuman forces attacking. Here are my ideas.

1.As I previously mentioned I would replace the Emperor with a double under my control. This grants me control over Imperial weapons projects and allows me to soften and transform the Empire from within. For starters I will need a massive conscription of the galaxy's population and expend considerably efforts to ensure the Empire is a meritocacy promoting and rewarding capable soldiers regardless of race. Thrawn becames the norm not the exception in other words.

2.I would form a covert group of leaders, generals etc who realize just what we are about to face. Darth Vader and possibly Obi Wan if i can arrange it would be two resourcful fellows I would include. They will not know I am the true ruler or even that I exist. This will be based along as the Emperor's force senesitive nature seeing the future. It is always best to keep things simple. These group will head research insitutes, military doctrines, secrete military institlations among other things. IN essecne everything I need to prepare the Empire for what seems like an imaginary threat to the populace with as little drag as possible.

3. A massive influx of technology with priorities being for the widespread assimulation of replicators, the trek kind, to increase our industrial capability but eventually everything.

4.The cancleation of the Death Star project and the scrapping of what has already been constructed. A massive shipbuilding campaing would iniated from then until after the Tryanids come. We need every hull we can obtain. In essence I would strive to build Federation vessels as large and durable as Imperial vessels, dozens of phaser banks with hundreds of quantum torpedoes if not thousands. Planatary defenses will also be increased including planatary shields on major worlds if not already present.


5. Began stockpiling trilthium warheads. They can come in handy as a last resort.

6. In addition to standard crafts Thalaron radiation generation crafts will be constructed equiped with phase cloaking technology for defense.

7.Heavily shielded probes will be dispatched outside the galaxy to scan for visitors. If and when they detect a large biomass Thalaron vessels will be assembled at the "breach" point and used to destroy the organic scum.

8.Cloaked, self-replicating mines are good for guarding wormholes regardless of who is on the other end. If I can spare it I'll have a planet or two churn these out.

9. Replicate the program constructed by the Enterprise crew in I, Borg to have at the ready when the Borg invade. Infecting a drone should be fairly easy as they don't attack unless you prove yourself a threat. This won't kill the Borg but hopefully will mess with them enough to give me an advantage.

10. Assuming succesfully defeat of the Replicators shall attempt to study and reprogram the buggers as a second to last ditch anti-borg weapon. They will of course deactivate any safe-guards I put into them days if not hours after I release them into the "wild" so I must assume this is a stop-gap measure at best.

Threats:

Confederacy:Minimal but contact provides wonderful ground based weapon technology.

Terran Empire:Moderate but the Galactic Empire will be bigger and by that time more advanced weapons wise ensuring the Terrans play nice. A few border incursions possible but if relations are truly hostile will mine the wormholes to prevent further distractions. Otherwise may seek military alliance in exchange for giving them ( less then state of the art) technologies.

Aphohis: Ship to ship High but his token fleet should be easily defeated after first contact. Overall Low. Posses interesting regenerative technology and naquadria could be exploited into enhancing weapons output.

Protoss:Moderate. Very advanced technology combined with a warrior culture but not overly aggressive. Peaceful contact is possible as well as exchanges of technology.

Replicators:High. Possibly living Von Neumon machines. Any Infected planets must be DBZed. Highly adaptive to energy weapons, infantry would best employ projectile fire arms in combat during evacuation procedures.


Borg:Very High. Thousands if not millions of vessels, highly adapative to attacks. If detected early enough the wormhole might be blocked decreasing the problem. May be able to gain aid from the Terran Empire with selective information about the borg origin. IE trick them into believing these Borg live in thier Delta quandrent.

Tyranids: Extremely high. Possibly billions of vessels...convential war almost impossible in best case scenario. Scorch Earth policy recomended.

[Sift Green]

For the most part, I agree with sonofccn. However, their are some things I would do differently.

My response to the Replicators would depend on when I find them. If they are all still on the same planet, but not containable, I would use the Genesis Device on it, eliminating them in the most defiant way possible. It would be a nightmare to fight anything that could survive that.

A Genesis weapon would also be useful against the Tyranids fleet, and on any unsalvageable world. I would have to be cautious with its deployment though, as I want to keep most of the galaxies population alive.

[Mike DiCenso]

As for cloaking devices are concerned, I'd rather have the Scimitar's cloaking device, which not only allows you to fire with impunity while cloaked, but still remain undetected and shielded! ;-)

No. Only my flagship gets that, with any other high tech goodie I can think of, everyone else in the fleet must decloak to fire. Just in case any officer get's itchy trigger fingers you understand and try to replace me. :)

Or you need to set up a proper officer training program to ensure high standards of loyalty to you. ;-)
-Mike

[Khas]

If I were in charge, I'd put a lot of research into trilithium, naquadria, thalaron, protomatter, and red matter weapons. Nothing says pwnage like turning your enemies into black holes.

On another note, I'd attempt to reverse engineer the Protoss Time Bomb. Freeze time for the enemies so I could evacuate any planets they were attacking.

[Mr. Oragahn]

For the most part, I agree with sonofccn. However, their are some things I would do differently.

My response to the Replicators would depend on when I find them. If they are all still on the same planet, but not containable, I would use the Genesis Device on it, eliminating them in the most defiant way possible. It would be a nightmare to fight anything that could survive that.

A Genesis weapon would also be useful against the Tyranids fleet, and on any unsalvageable world. I would have to be cautious with its deployment though, as I want to keep most of the galaxies population alive.

The effects of the Genesis device, if the Defiant crew can even build one, are a total gamble. You're not shooting a device at "inert" matter. You're shooting a device that will pump massive amounts of energy into bugs which, in packed swarms, can absorb energy. I suppose it would work though, but you better be sure that no pack of blocks will survive.

That is also assuming they wouldn't erect a shield. What a bug can do, bigger and more of them can as well, and better.
The Prometheus was allowed to land because it was fully scanned and no unknown or advanced tech was noticed by the Replicator ship.
A medusa-like ship can produce battle shields, and the power production increase of the bugs multiply their numbers is not exactly linear I'd say.
Also, Carter said in reaction to the plan about overloading Prometheus' naqahdria-fed hyperdrive (in order to destroy a building encased in a neutronium shell), that the Replicators would much likely be powered by the blast. A blast which Jonas thought would turn Nevada into a smoking crater when pirates menaced to overload the same hyperdrive some time before. Although likely exagerated, I wouldn't dismiss the blast at all.

As for the supernova, Replicators have FTL sensors. They'll have plenty of time to detect the supernova, erect a shield if they can or need to, or leave, before the supernova reaches them.
Besides, the use of time dilation and spacetime raping device may not work so well against the Replicators.

I don't know how the galaxy will react to the arrival of the Replicators in year 25, but they better be seriously prepared. And let's not forget that the planetoid could replace a very isolated world for all we know.

I'm also extremely unconvinced about the galaxy being capable of evacuating even 10% of its population even if it wanted to. It would require abandoning the construction of warships for massive exodus crafts and making sure that the enemies and creatures that arrived in the SW galaxy can't leave.
Yes, because the bad news here is that leaving is a good thing on the short term, but Replicators and Tyranids are ravenous. They eat and eat more, and the Borg try to convert more as well.
Whatever would result from the fusion of the Replicators, Borg and Tyranids, I think the galactic population could try to run away as fast as possible, it would always die in the end.

There is no other way but fight.

[sonofccn]

You're not shooting a device at "inert" matter. You're shooting a device that will pump massive amounts of energy into bugs which, in packed swarms, can absorb energy. I suppose it would work though, but you better be sure that no pack of blocks will survive.

Well if the bugs are immune couldn't you simply convert the planet(s) into a star or something and fry the buggers that way? The bomb turned a nebula into a star, and planet with breathable atmosphere and plant life, so radical alchemistic transformations are not completly impossible.

That is also assuming they wouldn't erect a shield. What a bug can do, bigger and more of them can as well, and better.

That is assuming an erected shield would be of any use, they felt the need to generate it as opposed to trying to assimulate the new hunk of tech just dropped on them etc.

A medusa-like ship can produce battle shields, and the power production increase of the bugs multiply their numbers is not exactly linear I'd say.

What is the differnce between a "battle shield" and a regular shield? I don't remember any distiction being made.

Also, Carter said in reaction to the plan about overloading Prometheus' naqahdria-fed hyperdrive (in order to destroy a building encased in a neutronium shell), that the Replicators would much likely be powered by the blast.

Well if its Unnatural selections, season 6, we're talking about the planet was at that point MADE of replicator, at least the outer layer, so it isn't surprising a nuclear blast couldn't wipe them all out. Please keep in mind that rentry heat fried a ship full of the critters, thier tough but are killable.

As for the supernova, Replicators have FTL sensors. They'll have plenty of time to detect the supernova, erect a shield if they can or need to, or leave, before the supernova reaches them.
Besides, the use of time dilation and spacetime raping device may not work so well against the Replicators.

Unless I'm mistaken they'd only have minutes. Even they would have trouble with a mass evacuation in such a time scale. The odd stray can be dealt with later with ships or if needed ground troops. The other option is generating a shield strong enough to withstand a star going nova which I find skeptical.

So what's your proposal to weather the aformentioned threats? from Protoss to replicators, to Tyranids?