Light Moon's response.
StarWarsStarTrek wrote:Darth Chang's opening post:
Even if we were to equalize the numbers and logistics of both sides; factors that, as I shall point out later, are heavily in favor of the United States, this is still a one sided curbstomp.
ROTLAMO. The Numenorians had armies of many millions.
The United States military has firearms that can shoot up to 1000 RPM with kilojoules of energy from hundreds of meters away.
Bull. Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa50-plo48
I don't see any 1000 RPM shooting, do I?
Tell me, Light Moon, how exactly are the Numenorians going to stop that?
I don't see kilojoules of energy in the above video. Firecrackers are that level and we can clearly see what they do.
Even if their swords were extreme-wank-they-can-cut-through-ten-feet-of-steel magical items, it doesn't mean for jack shit if they get hit from a hundred meters away before they have any chance of actually hitting the soldiers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pot6c7H8 ... re=related
Uh huh, so hundreds of meters of range. Meanwhile, the Numernorian archers were described as having leagues of attack range. Kilometers, to be more precise.
That's the advantage that the US has; they can hit the Numernorians long before they can hit back, and at hundreds of rounds per minute, a Numenorian army of tens of thousands would be reduced and routed within minutes due to sheer volume of fire and the Numernorians' inability to do jack all to fight back.
No, they'll be laughing as they pick off the idiots from leagues away.
This isn't even taking into account motars and artillery fire with megajoule level firepower, or hellfire missiles with gigajoule level firepower.
Megajoules? Gigajoules? ROFLAMO.
How the fuck are Numenorians in close, medieval style shield formations going to cope with artillery pounding their position from literally beyond the horizon, taking out dozens of men per shot while they sit on their asses, cowering in fear?
Simple; you have no evidence that they can fire at these ranges. There are many videos of troops engaging at a few dozen meters range.
As for beasts such as trolls, modern anti tank weaponry, design to penetrate modern composite armor,
Which can be destroyed by running into trains.
can easily blow a hole through a troll, who, as you seem to forget, is made out of you know, flesh,
Better than metal that can be dented by a fire hydrant.
or simply massed small arms fire.
You mean the trolls which Numernorian archers have hard time taking down?
A troll would have to run several hundred meters through hundreds of RPG's, M16's and other fire raining down on it.
No, it would have to run through a few meters of small arms fire, which would take about a second.
This is compounded by the United State's airforce, which has complete monopoly over the Numenorians in every conceivable away.
Dragons on your ass.
US aircraft can fly at over 40,000 feet;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yauoaW7HfAs
Right.
what the fuck will a Numenorian do against them?
Shoot them down? These helicopters are made out of metal that a guy with an ax can crumble.
They can't even see the damn things, let along hit them!
If Numenorians can fire from leagues away, they can.
A B-2 bomber flying overhead a Numenorian formation could drop several MOABs, destroying the army and routing its remnants.
MOABs are wanked. In Iraq, I don't see these MOABs destroying buildings that infantry end up raiding with small arms.
The US has thousands of planes capable of doing just this,
Wank, I only see one at most in a firefight.
and there is quite literally jack all the primitive troops can do to fight back.
Primitive? The same race that has the pilantir?
The numenorians cannot do jack. If they try and march on a city, they get shot to bits from beyond the horizon artillery strikes, or from supersonic aircraft several kilometers in the air. And we're talking about dozens of numenorians being wiped out per airstrike or artillery strike, and these can be called in rapid succession, often several times per second.
No, you're cherry picking data so that you can make up your fantasy of having kilojoule hand weapons with ranges of hundreds of meters (when we can see from footage that most combat happens within a few dozens) with 1000 RPM (when we can see from footage that this is false), aircraft flying above the clouds (when we don't see any ground footage of this, instead we see them flying clearly visibly in the air) and beyond the horizon artillery (when this would have been useful many times when a few dozen meters of range is what is used)
No amount of magic swords will do any good against someone that can hit you from across the horizon.
fap fap fap.
Oh, and by the way, I noticed that you seem to cite nuclear weapons as evidence of them winning. This is ridiculous; I don't see any kiloton level weapons in Desert Storm! The footages of Hiroshima are contradicted by on screen evidence.