Jedi Master Spock wrote:On review, I'm deeming the particular placement, timing, and circumstances of this thread to be provocative. It does not seem like this was a thread that was likely to lead anywhere productive in terms of discussion when it was created; and SWST, I think you knew that.
Breetai, I think someone else has already warned you for your conduct in this thread, but if not, consider yourself cautioned.
The purpose of this thread was to place my arguments together and describe their significance. You see, rarely in this board do we actually discuss what would actually transpire in a hypothetical war; we simply debate firepower yields/shield yields/speeds/industrial might/etc.
Admiral Breetai wrote:
I just did in fact the mere fact that this was moved to the fanfiction section shows just how outrageous your conduct is
See? Your response to requests for evidence is the elusive "I just did".
i did read your post obviously the bullshit was over nine thousand
Goalpost move. Your original claim was that I provided no justification, not that my justification was bad.
you mean like how janeway brought all that home on her own and was actively experimenting in QST
Experimenting =/= ready for deployment.
compared to the other side that can cross an entire solar system inside of half an hour on cruising speed?
Red herring. Star Trek ships never move that fast in combat, and there are plenty of sources contradicting such feats. For example, there are times where they are screaming "get us out of orbit!" while moving at speeds nowhere near the Jupiter incident.
are you? seeing as your lying constantly about what happened at endor and ANH and have been punished for it
See? You fail to back up your dishonest claim.
. Instead, you try and justify your dishonesty by claiming that I was "constantly lying" about what happened at endor and ANH; obviously, you fail to actually justify this statement.
seeing as you've lost every debate you've had against me I'm not especially concerned
As I expected, you have failed to back up your "few hundred meters" claim. Go watch the Battle of Endor on youtube.
Is this supposed to be a rebuttal?
no they don't
Where's the evidence, breentai?
seeing as the films back up 1 megaton at most..and normally kiloton fire power and nothing else
Double standard you, where do you see megaton level weapons here, in Star Trek?
You also fail to realize that the film-novels are G canon, and are valid unless explicitly overruled by the films themselves. And go search up the word overruled before you claim that lack of evidence = overruled.
[SPOILER]Answer: you don't see megaton level explosions because they're in space. Basic physics.[/SPOILER]
because every time I do you ignore it as every one else has pointed out
I don't have to ignore anything, because you don't bring any evidence for me to ignore.
and there you go with absolute and direct lying...again
So you care to support your claim that phasers can BDZ a planet?
seeing as and this is where your rampant lying comes in or massive ignorance..it not only had no yields what so ever..but merely containing something to make the planet unlivable for humans still caused a shockwave seen for hundreds of miles
boy the depth of your biased knows no bounds
Goalpost move. You claimed that phasers are so powerful they could accidentally wipe out a planet. We see two quantum torpeods failing to cover the entire planet, despite being far more powerful than phasers.
and yet the battle of endor totally supports my claims as at no point did anything but fighters see action on screen and ships had to close to point blank..just like in ep 3 when cap ships had to fire more or less a few hundred meters at max..to meters at min
Desperately, he was shouting into his comlink, over the noise of continuous explosions, talking to Ackbar in the Alliance command ship. "I said closer! Move in as close as you can and engage the Star Destroyers at point-blank range- that way the Death Star won't be able to fire at us without knocking out its own ships!"
"But no one's ever gone nose to nose at that range, between supervessels like their Destroyers and our Cruisers!" Ackbar fumed at the unthinkable- but their options were running out.
"Great!" yelled Lando, skimming over the surface of the Destroyer. "Then we're inventing a new kind of combat!"
"We know nothing about the tactics of such a confrontation!" Ackbar protested.
"We know as much as they do!" Lando hollered. "And they'll think we know more!" Bluffing was always dangerous in the last hand; but sometimes, when all your money was in the pot, it was the only way to win- and Lando never played to lose.
"At that close range, we won't last long against those Star Destroyers." Ackbar was already feeling giddy with resignation.
"We'll last longer than we will against that Death Star, and we might just take a few of them with us!" Lando whooped. With a jolt, one of his forward guns was blown away. He put the Falcon into a controlled spin, and careened around the belly of the Imperial leviathan.
With little else to lose, Ackbar decided to try Calrissian's strategy. In the next minutes, dozens of Rebel Cruisers moved in astronomically close to the Imperial Star Destroyers- and the colossal antagonists began blasting away at each other, like tanks at twenty paces, while hundreds of tiny fighters raced across their surfaces, zipping between laser bolts as they chased around the massive hulls.
my treatment of you is entirely justified and you deserve worse..but sadly I'm not allowed to give
You fail to prove this.
well can't argue with whats on screen SWST just get over it and move on son I did
Again, explain how circumnavigating a gas giant in 30 minutes is slow.